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Thanks for sharing your experience with your surgery. I’m having the exact same surgery tomorrow actually 12/15. I was just doing some last minute googling when I found your blog. Everything that you described so far has been exactly the same with me. Except my tumor is in front of my ear on the side of my cheek. I’m 22 and I’m not looking forward to scars or numbness, but atleast I know I’m not the only one. Thanks again!
i too had this surgery! it took a while for the numbness to go away but my facial nerve is fine.. everything is great except for the scar on my neck.. looks like a vampire fed on you
I had ths surgery 6 days ago. The only pain I have left is when I chew, otherwise, my neck is still stiff, and the scar is healing nicely. No problems with the facial nerve. As advertised, the lower end of my ear is numb, along with a portion of my neck along the scar.
Thank you so much for sharing your story. My story is exactly the same as yours in every way, I too went to other Doctors who kept telling me that it was just a gland, it may or may not go down. Your story has put my mind at ease, especially now that I am 14.5 wks pregnant and my surgeon wants to remove the tumor in 5 weeks. I was extremely concerned about the whole process and how I would recover and how it would affect my baby…. So once again, thank you for openly sharing, it is greatly appreciated.
I’m having the surgery at the end of June. I, too, had one doctor after another tell me it was likely a clogged lymph node. My dermatologist discovered it after treatment for a keratosis and told me to have a surgeon check it out. He suggested that I only see an ear,nose, throat guy which I did. He diagnosed it with an FNA. He’s done hundreds of these procedures, so I’m moving forward with some confidence.
Thanks, Brandon, particularly for the post-op information. I didn’t know I wouldn’t be driving for a couple of weeks.
I had the same experience of surgery you’ve done. The only difference in my case was 2nd time around. My first surgery was in preschool and 2nd was in 3rd year college. Now Im getting back to normal because after my 2nd surgery I have facial paralysis due to trauma of my facial nerve.
I just had this surgery done on May 6th by the same doctor. Mine was very large and the surgery took about four hours. Everything that is described above is exactly how you will feel when it is done. The numbness you experience is the worst part I believe.
I just had the same surgery on May 26. I have exactly the same feelings about eating/chewing (also made a mistake of eating jalapeno), stiffness in my neck, and numbness around my incision area. Also, today I feel that the outer edge/lower end of my ear is not only numb, but also swollen/red/stiff — hopefully this is normal and will go away soon.
I had mine for 2 years before the dr. decided it was not a swollen lymph node and referring me on to an ENT. Luckily my daughter had PE tubes put in so I was already familiar with this dr. and knew he was a good surgeon. I had my surgery last Monday and everything went well. What he thought would be the size of an dime came out the size of a quarter. It took 3 hours to remove. Lab results show it was a pleomorphic adenoma. I was sent home the same day without a drain. On Wednesday I began getting a sore throat, headaches, cold chills and sweats. When I finally demanded that my husband find a thermometer to check my temp it was 104. He rushed me into the ER. After 6 hours of tests they decided that I had gotten a virus and it just had really bad timing with the surgery. I was very dehydrated as well. It is now Monday and I am doing much better, minimal swelling, minimal pain, but still cannot open my mouth further than 1/4 inch wide so soup through a straw has been my best friend. I have lost 11 lbs in 7 days..but that is a good thing..lol
Also the bottom half of my ear is completely numb.
I had the same same surgery ten years ago and i have it back. I was told it was a 2 percent and now i have four of them 1 in my neck 2 in the back part of the the gland(the front part was taken out)and 1 on the side of my face beside the ear. I have a catscan tomorrow so they can determin where they are going to place my facial nerves they have to remove the rest of the gland. Make sure you always just in case.
Make sure you check every once in awhile. Mine is still numb after 10 years in some places.
hi thanks guys. im haveing an pleomorphic adenoma removed on the 27th july 09 and i must say the closer it gets to the date the more scard im getting . i do feel alittle better now i have read your stories thanks xxxx
Ditto with my surgery 10 days ago for pleomorphic adenoma. I underwent total P’dectomy. Now my biggest problem is burning sensation behind my ear which was numb all these days. Teh doctoer tells me that it may be good sign of nerves recovering back. Time will tell. Good luck to all.
I have had the same surgery on the 15th of July 09 and instead of having a scar down my neck my surgeon used a face lift incision and you can’t even see where he’s been so that’s a big plus however I did have to go into theater twice because the first drain the put in didn’t work properly. The second time round worked a treat and I was released from the hospital after (what was suppose to be an overnight stay) 6 nights. Everything seemed to be going well the first day home but the second day the site starting to swell to back to the hospital I went where it was manually drained with a huge needle and then again 3 days later and I’ll be going back again tomorrow (one week from the last drainage) to have it done again. For some reason my saliva gland is working overtime and my body isn’t absorbing it so its just building up around my ear. Its very annoying, lots of pressure and I really want to have a decent feed like a cheeseburger or a big juicy steak. I can’t wait till it heals. Oh and by the way the big huge needle wasn’t that big of a deal because its still really numb so it didn’t hurt it just felt weird.
I had the same surgery 10 days ago. Adenoid cystic carcinoma though. Wondered if you felt extreme pressure inside ear. Like water stuck in your ear? Numbness is annoying
I had the surgery in April - unfortunately it was a lot deeper than they were expecting and I had surgery for 4 hours. I developed an infection about a week later and had to take 2 courses of antibiotics. Still have some numbness and also some nerve pain in my ear and my neck still feels stiff at times. There is sometimes a build up of saliva and my neck feels tight but it seems to then suddenly drain into my mouth and the pressure eases. The scar looks fine - the surgeon followed what he called a crease (more like a wrinkle to me) in my neck.
This op was rather more than I was expecting and also the recovery time seems to have taken about 4 months. I felt very tired for about 2 months and eating anything acidic was painful for about the same length of time
HI. i am 21 yrs old and i am about to have this surgery. I have been to the hospital a few times and they seem very limited on giving you information on the precedure so i was really glad when i found this blog. Thank you for explaining the whole process, i havefound it vey useful and i know what to expect now. Im still scared though!
Hi i am Kirsty’s Mum, I too am scared but these stories are really helpful, thanks to all, love you loads Kirstychick x
Hi having just read your comments, i feel a little easier having just been diagnosed, and waiting for the appt for a biopsy, i now feel that i am not alone,
Hi I had the same surgery 5 years ago and all is well. I had almost exactly the same experiences as you which is spooky. My scar still occasionally itches and some dead skin still needs to be removed via exfoliating however noone even notices the scar until I point it out to them (the surgeon was brill) The only legacy I’m left with from the surgery is my ear gets really cold when the weather temp drops, and I need to wear a hat in winter or ear muffs. I presume this is because some nerves get damaged however I do have feeling in my earlobe which I was told I would lose!! Good luck to anyone having the op and remember the human body is amazing and heals very quickly if you let it.
Hi i left a coment on the 13th October. i have now had the surgery done, 3 days ago. its not really painful but it is a pain in the bum. i cant seem to get comfy without the area feeling pressurised but im sure this will disappear. i cant chew anything so im having all my food in liquid form but its not as bad as it sounds. the area is a little swollen and i too suffered from a stiff neck for a day or 2. but that has gone now. when i came out of surgery m whole right ear and cheek were numb but within a day the feeling in half of my ear came back and i only have numbness in the lower part of my jaw. the only facial movement problems i have is half of my lower lip doesnt move, its just like you have been to the dentist, but im sure this will come back. the surgery went well an it was a little more complicated than the surgeon had thought as they had to dissect half of the tumour and then had to move my facial nerve to remove the rest. Overall i am pleased with how it has gone and wondering why i was so scared beforehand. nothing is really painful just a little uncomfortable and more a pain in the bum! but im on the road to recovery now. good look to anyone that is having the surgery.
i’vve just been diagnosed with this and found this page to be the most infromative as compared to anything else (inlcuding all the medical mumbo jumbo).
Thanks alot for starting this
Thank you so much for all the comments I feel more informed now.
I have to say thank you to all of you…..I just got the results to my biopsy…..Until I read these stories I was sooo scared. I am awaiting my appt. with the ent specialist and then of course surgery. Thank you for the heads up.
I just had my tumor removed a week ago today. I wish I came upon your site sooner. The doctors never do tell you everything. I had no idea about the difficulty I would have chewing or moving my neck (it is like whiplash). Thanks.
Thanks so much for starting the site. Had a superficial partial parotidectomy - benign lump - 8 days ago. Healing well except when I chew, even soft things, the salivary gland at the base of my jaw fills up and REALLY hurts. Docs say hot compresses and wait - any advice from others on home treatment or how long before it resolves?
Hope everyone is healing well. Susan
I just had surgery to remove a benign tumor on 11/25/09. Neck pain and stiffness still. I’m numb too from my lower ear, all the way down the incision. I had to wait until after the surgery to know if the tumor was benign. The FNA was inconclusive. (so don’t panic if that happens to you). My FNA hurt really bad and I was swollen for days after it. The tumor was really hard and caused a lot of pain in my face. It had wrapped around 3 nerves. No facial nerve damage from surgery. Dr. Brown from Central Park ENT in Arlington, Texas did an outstading job. I ended up having a rarer tumor than most parotid tumors, one that accounts for less than 1% of all parotid tumors. I really wish I remembered the name, but was so ovejoyed when my doc told me it was benign. I don’t know if it is just me, but I believe salivary tumors are on the rise. Seems like a lot more people are getting them. A few people in the spotlight recently had them too: Lebron James-basketball player (benign) and Adam Yauch-from Beastie Boys (malignant). I also have talked to 2 different people who said I’m the 2nd and 3rd person they knew who had a tumor there. I hope more research is done to see if cell phones and other things could be part of the cause of these increasing. I have even started using my speaker on my cell phone more .LOL
Oh, forgot to mention. Like others, I was told I probably had an enlarged lymph node (due to ear infections). My main advice for everyone…don’t ignore the lump, even if painless…get it checked out and see another doctor if the lump doesn’t go away with meds.
Hey Tammi,
Thanks for contributing your details. And thanks to everyone actually! The more information we can put out there the better for everyone!
Thank you so much for starting this informative blog! My surgery is in 3 days and I have learned so much by reading this. I too noticed my lump around my early 20’s. Because I was given the option to leave it in- (Dr’s did not mention that it could become malignant until a month ago) The possibility of nerve damage was too much for me to handle, so I decided to wait. Now in my mid 30’s, I’m ready to do it. Thanks to your bloggers I’ve made my grocery list for soft foods and going to stock up on dvd’s.
Thank you again- And I will up date later.
I had this surgery in March of 09, but the tumor was in the most forward part of the glad in the middle of my cheek. They had to peel back about half of my face to get to it and remove it. i am now experiencing severe acne on the skin that was removed and on the opposite side of the face, but in the same location. The rest of my face is unaffected by the acne. HAS ANYONE ELSE EXPERIENCED THIS TYPE OF ACNE? What solutions did you come across. No one seems to know exactly what to do with it, I am on a waiting list to see a dermatologist about it. any input would be appreciated.
Thanks to all who have shared it makes a difference. I am having surgery on 1/8/2010 .. I had the same issues , I noticed it when I had a wisdom tooth removed , my dentist sd it was my lymph nodes , that was in august 09 after several antibiotics and steriods it was still there. I went to the hospital due to pain in the ear and back of the head. They did a cat scan and seen the growth on the parotid gland , they referred me to a specialist Dr. John Ballert * he is the most informative doctor I have ever seen. He did the Fna as well found out it was a pleomorphic adenoma and suggested for it to be removed. This is in the deep lobe on top of the facial nerve , my doctor told me that I would have trouble with my eye closing and may have to tape it shut @ night to prevent it from getting dry. Has anyone experienced this ?
Carole and Cindy, I can’t answer your questions, but I’m sure someone from a patients forum of people who have been through what we have can help. You can link to it through http://patientsforum.com/patientsforum_site_map1.htm
Hi Cindy, I had mine removed on Friday my eye does not blink as much as before but the doctor said I will need cream to keep the eye moist, this nerve damage will clear in time.
Hi - I had my surgery on Thursday and am experiencing some swelling in my neck and around my ear - in fact it seems to be getting worse. Any ideas as to what I should do about this?
Hi Nancy, Same here but I have been given Ketoprofen 200mg capsules one to be taken each day this is said to be a pain killer and it lessons the swelling. I feel more numb in the ear area but I feel this means its getting better. Can anyone tell me if I can wash my hair as have got dissolveable stitches. Thanks Nathalie.
Nathalie - I was told that I could wash my hair but to be careful about getting product on the incision. If it gets wet, you are just supposed to blot it dry. I am still concerned about the swelling - I can’t see the incision as the area around it is slightly red and swollen - as is my now HUGE double chin! Not much pain anymore, however. Is this normal?
Hi Nancy, Plucked up the courage to wash hair yesterday but had a dry patch when I came to dry it but felt so brave afterwards. The swelling you have I don’t know if thats normal or not as I have woke up this morning feeling less swollen than usually but in more pain so have just taken paracetmol, the pain is the same as before I had the lump removed so is bearable. I slept last night for the first time in ages as I had not been able to get in to a comfortable postion, my eye is still playing up though as I need the cream to moist it, will go to doc’s today. If your still concerned about the swelling do give your doc a call and ask their advice I think its normal because we all heal differently but do see what they say. I check this sight every day so do keep writing. Good Luck Love Nat.
Hi Nancy, Forgot to ask did you sleep in a sitting up postion for the first few nights as I did, this is said to help stop the swelling, I only new to do this because of Brandon Ching thank God he started this sight as its thanks to him I knew what to expect. The Doctors just don’t tell you anything. What part of the world are you in as I live in Cheshire England. Hope you don’t mind me asking.
Hi Again Nancy, Just re-reading above comments, can you please read No 15 Kylie to see if its any help to you.
Hi Nathalie I’m in the USA and I just called the Doctor’s office to be told that the swelling is normal. I have been sleeping sitting up since the surgery. The Dr’s office said that I should call if it gets worse!
Hi Nancy, So glad to hear your good news I have just come back from the hospital and they are concerned about my eye, they have noticed I can’t smile properly either so my out patients appointment has been brought forward from six weeks to two weeks to see the consultant who did my op so am quite worried about that as when I do smile I look as though its a sarcastic grin lol. They have given me drops to put in my eye to keep it moist. Keep in touch Nancy. And to all who have had the same exprience or are going to have this op done Good Luck and have a lovely festive time Love From Nathalie England.
Nathalie - when is your appointment? - I will keep you in my thoughts. Please let us all know how everything goes. Take care.
Hi Nancy, My appointment is 11th Jan. It does seem to me the more the numbness disappears the worse the pain becomes does anyone else agree? Have been told to continue with the ketoprofen and paracetamol as I did stop for a day as was feeing spaced out but better to feel spaced out than in pain lol. Take care all Love Nat.
You guys do not know how beneficial it was for me to stumble upon this blog today. I had the procedure done on Tuesday and was concerned about the numbness in my neck and ear and the overall healing process. I thought maybe something was really wrong. I am overjoyed to see that what I am experiencing is fairly normal and similar to everyone else’s experiences. Thanks to Brandon for starting the site and to the rest of you for sharing your stories. It has been a much needed “support group” for me. I have also been sleeping while sitting up for the past 4 nights. Certain tonight will bring the same position.
Doctor gave me new antibiotics today to help the healing. Looks like what I need is a little more patience. Not always my strong suit.
Patty, I tried to sleep in a bed last night, but am still much more comfortable in a chair. The fifth day was the turning point for me - I am still sore, and if I talk too much one side of my face can’t keep up, but I do feel like I am getting better. Best wishes to everyone and thanks very much to Brandon for starting the site!
Hi Nancy. Today is my day 5 and although I think it’s getting better, I am still completely numb in te ear and sore in the neck. I also have lots of bruising. My inner ear must be swollen because it feels as if a cotton ball has been stuffed down in it. I hope this is just a normal part of the healing process. Took a shower and washed my hair today so I am atleast feeling as if I am amongst the living. I really had no idea that this procedure was going to be as invasive as it is. I’m glad to have the growth removed but man, I can’t wait to feel back to normal!! I have been sleeping in my bed actually but I have one of those pillows with the arms rests…I have my bed pillows propped up around it. It’s been working pretty good as I seem to be getting about 10 hours of sleep per night. Thanks for sharing your update. Keep me posted on your progress and I will do the same. ~Patty
FYI….I’m from Omaha, NE. My ENT is Dr. Michael Crawford and I really like him.
Hi All, I was feeling really good yesterday until after my bath last night when a clear liquid started to run down my neck from the scar I phoned hossy and they said this was nothing to worry about but I am worried as my skull still feels bruised and I still have a headache. The runny liquid has stopped now and I have taken the last of my ketoprofen but will continue with the paracetomols. Has anyone had similar?
Hi Again, Just come back from hospital the scar has been checked out and cleaned and I have been told that just behind my ear has become infected so they have given me anti-biotics which I have to take 3 times a day for 5 days.
Nathalie….I am so sorry to hear you’re not healing as well as anticipated. I hope the new antibiotics do their thing. I get my stitches out in the morning so I am hopeful that I am over the worst hump. I’m still a pretty unhappy camper overall. Can’t wait to have feelings back. Hang in there girl and best of luck!! Keep posting. It’s great to hear others’ stories…..wishing the best for you!
Thank you so much Patty, feeling a little better today but still very tired and its been well over a week now since having my op. What type of stitches do you have as mine were dissovable and glue?
Thank you Nathalie. I had no idea what to expect with the healing process till this blog. Thank you Brandon..
I will let you know how things go after the surgery. Nat glad to see you are feeling better keep your head up and wishing a speedy recovery for all ..
Thank you Cindy. I drove for the first time today and it was such a great feeling I felt so back to normal, I did take the youngest son with me to carry shopping bags though lol. The scab has come off the incision with a few stitches and you can hardly see that I have had an op. My neck still feels stiff and my ear is still numb I’m off all the pain killers now accept for the antibotic’s. Hope your op go’s well, if you need to know anything I will try to help. Speak soon Nat.
Hi all - Today marks two weeks for me and the first day that I have gone without meds. I still feel as though something is attached to the side of my head that isn’t supposed to be there, and I still am having a lot of trouble sleeping, but for the most part things are better and I finally feel like one day I will be back to normal. Fortunately I had already taken vacation time for this week, so Monday will be my first day back at work. We shall see how that goes. Glad to hear you are all improving as well - Happy New Year.
Hi all. Well…today is the 10th day after surgery and I still cannot feel my ear and have a hard lump in the neck/cheek area. I got my external stitches (46 external, 2 layers of internal disolvable) out on Tuesday morning. That was relatively painless. The doc told me that my tumor was the size of a golf ball, flattened and elongated down to approx. my ear drum. I guess that explains why it’s taking so long to heal. He was not pleased with the progresss and gave me more meds and I need to go back next week. Needless to say, I am tired of feeling like I’m never going to be normal, but i know in my head that’s not the case. I had a fever yesterday of 100.8, low grade so I’m not everly worried. I am usually pretty optimistic but some moments it just wears on ya. I have decided that with the remaining three days before returning work, i am just going to stay tucked in, rest and continue to heal. Oh…my pathology reports are in too and all is benign so that’s awesome. Nancy and Nathalie…best of luck as you continue to heal and Cindy…I will be thinking about you and hoping all goes superbly in your procedure. I will let you know how my next appt goes. Happy New year everyone. God Bless…
Hi, I’am from the Netherlands Antilles Island of Curacao, I’am glad with your side.
I will have an op. the 6th of this month.
I’am scared, but I trust in God that He will do the op. and the healing prosess. God BLESS U ALL, TRUST HIM. He began the work He will finish it.
Hi Margarita, Welcome to this fantastic site, good luck with your op on Wednesday I will be thinking of you. Hi Patty how are you feeling today you WILL get better it will just take time its only been 11days so hang on in there, staying tucked in is the best thing for you right now. I go back to work on Monday too so I’m a bit apprehensive as I work in an all girls school so there will be lots of questions asked and I know they will hug me I just hope they do not knock the area where the incision has been, I will just have to be really careful. Hi Nancy, so glad your on the mend, the way you feel is exactly the same as I do, its like my ear belongs to an elephant its just still so numb I’m still getting horrible shooting pains in and around the ear area but this does not last long I also have a 2inch piece of plastic wire stuff comming out of the back of my ear if I pull on it the incision down my neck tightens I have another half inch
piece coming out of the front of my ear and pulling on this cause’s the same pain in the lower part of my neck, so I can only think that this wirey plastic is from the internal stitching how weird is that. Happy New Year To You All. Good Luck To Cindy And Margarita you will both be fine. Patty stay strong keep warm look after yourself I will be thinking about you, you will get there slowly but surely Love Nat.
Hi Nat,
I have the same shooting pains now before the surgery in my ear, same as yours it doesn’t stay long. On a lighter note , I hope all went well for you at work today. I go for pre op tom and surgery on friday … will talk to you all after the surgery …
Wow, Patty, I’m sorry you are having such a difficult time of it. Thank God your growth was benign. I went back to work today - kept my hair over my ear as much as possible - as I work in a boys’ school and did not want to hear all of the remarks! I was pretty tired all day, but this evening I am actually feeling fairly well- I guess one gets used to that funny feeling on the side of one’s head! Sleeping is still difficult.
Cindy and Margarita - best of luck to you. Nathalie - I hope all went well for you today at work.
Hi guys. Checking in. Today was a good day. Although most of my ear is still numb and feels like it doesn’t belong..all other things are doing well. My fever has subsided. My attitude had improved
and I am so glad I am on this side of the operation. Bottom line: it had to come out and I’m glad it’s gone!!! Sleeping is still difficult as well. This morning i woke up after a dead sleep on the injured side…face planted firmly in the mattress. That was a headache; literally and figuratively. LOL My body is trying deperately to get back to normal. In time… Every day I improve and with that, so does my optimism. Margarita…welcome and good luck. Cindy…thinking of you too. Nathalie and Nancy. Thanks for being there. you all are awesome. Night!!
Hi Everyone. Thank you so much for this site. I am scheduled to have surgery Jan 26th. My FNA said it was a pleomorphic adenoma, as like many of you have had. I wonder how long I have had this, as I have experienced a deep itch in my right ear for several years. My tumor is right below my earlobe. As I work in the medical field the thought of surgery can be a little overwhelming (probably know too much:). It is so good to hear that many are having a good recovery, do hang in there the body has remarkable healing powers, but the nerves can take a little longer to heal, that is normal. I am having my surgery done by Dr. Osborne next to Cedars Sinai in L.A., an ENT that specializes in parotid tumors. Has anyone had him as a surgeon, or heard of him? He has a very informative website (just put the name and parotid tumor). Thank you again for all the information and support. My strength with you all.
Hello Diane (and everyone else),
I visited Dr. Osborne’s web site. It is very informative and thus I have no problems listing it here as another reference for visitors:
I’m glad to see such activity on this page and to witness the support of/from people all over the world.
Good luck to all of you.
Brandon C.
hi all - just when I thought everything was getting better - I am having increased swelling behind my ear. It’s been three weeks since the surgery - and the swelling is getting worse-has this happened to anyone else?
Welcome Diane, I have read the website and your in the best of hands so please don’t worry Good Luck with your op let us all know how it goes as we will be thinking of you. Hi Patty, so glad to here your feeling so much better. And Nancy please call the Doc as they will advise you on the swelling, its 3 weeks for me too and only the top half of my ear is back to feeling normal the bottom is still swollen and numb along with part of my face. The plastic wirey stuff that was sticking out from behind and in front of my ear - I was able to pull away after a few day’s, it was the internal stitching stuff lol. Am at the hospital on Monday about my eye and my half smile so will let you know how I get on speak soon Love Nat.
Thank you all for your comments!
I have my surgery in February with Dr. Yates Ent. I wanted to ask anyone if they are experiencing headaches. I am getting them daily. I am on preventatives and vicodin but not completely going away and last night I got a migrane in the middle of the night. sometimes my ear hurts to like electric pains and my jaw hurts I can also tell the tumor is growing. Please give me some info. My ent says it could be from tmj but I thought I would ask you guys….
Welcome Michelle, I think the headaches are normal I think it depends on how the nerve is sitting in/on the lump if you have pain in the jaw this can cause headaches, but please get a second opinion as I’m not a Doctor. Hope this helps Good Luck with your op Love Nat.
Hi All, Hope everyone is feeling better? I went to see the guy who performed my operation yesterday and asked about my eye and half smile he told me the nerve damage was temporary and would correct itself within five to six weeks. He told me the tumour was an inch in size and was benign. He also told me that in some cases Radiotherapy my be needed and he would have to check with someone else but he thought it would be unlikely that I would need it. I was also told that the lump could return in ten, twenty thirty years time. Has anyone else been told similar as I nearly fell off the chair with shock especially about the Radiotherapy. As the dumbness is dissappearing I still feel pain and its the same pain I had before the op has anyone else experienced this? Love Nat
That had to be a shock, Nathalie. My doctor told me to come back once a year for 7 years. Haven’t heard about the radiotherapy - what is that? I’m leaving right now for my first appointment since the surgery, so I will let you know what my doctor says.
Hi Everyone! Just catching up on everyone’s comments. Michelle, I agree with the cause of the headaches being the position of the tumor, I have been having some discomfort (not really pain) on the right side of my cheek/head, sometimes some tingling. Always let your doctor know what is going on so they know what to check for at your appointments and if other tests are needed. Nathalie, so good to hear your nerve problem is temporary. Long ago, when I had my wisdom teeth removed I had some numbness in my lower lip, the dentist said it was because the nerve was “confused” after surgery and it took about 3-4 months to get back to normal. This may be similar to your facial nerve being ‘confused’ after surgery. Get opinions on any treatments to the area of surgery, I was told that radiation and chemotherapy could damage the facial nerve. Radiotherapy, I am not familiar with, but sounds like some kind of sound wave therapy, just make sure it can not affect the facial nerve. Well, I am going for my MRI, blood tests and EKG before my surgery Jan 26. Thank you again to everyone for your support! Talk to you soon.
Hi all,
I had my operation, and as I told you that God would perform the operation on me, that’s what happened.
God worked through Dr. Rach. Indeed a good doctor we have here on the island, he’s the only surgeon that does this kind of operation here in Curacao. He does not use the nerve detector, but he used an eye magnifier, and all the nerves remained good.
The size of the tumor was 2cmx2cm, and it has been sent to the lab.
The pain is gone. I did not feel much pain after the operation. They gave me paracetamol 1000mg.
When the nurse removed the drain it did hurt a lot. I’m not eating anything that I have to chew, because chewing hurts.
I’m happy that God allowed me to find this group, because I was aware of a lot of things.
The doctors told me “Oh, you’re well informed on everything”
I have a question. I noticed that two people in this group work at a school, I do too.
Are there more people in the group that work at a school ?
I’m wondering if maybe we are using our voices too much and wrong?
I’m healing and I trust that the tumor is not malignant. God bless you all, and keep up the good work.
Bye,
Margarita
PS: A lot of people were praying for me and the Dr.
Prayer is good!
Congratulations Margarita so glad your op was a success and how fantastic that your Doctor didn’t use a nerve detector, please let us know how you get on. Diane thank you for your kind comments I have never heard of a “confused nerve” but sounds understandable. I went to see my dentist on Wednesday and he said the pain I’m feeling is normal as the nerve has been stretched and needs time too relax back to normal. Please keep in touch Love Nat.
This is a very helpful discussion. Wish I had seen it earlier. I didn’t get a lot of information from my doctor or other sources. I had this operation on Dec 3, 2009. I had the lump for many years-I started to notice that it was bigger and thought it might be making me have headaches or pressure. The doctor did a fine needle biopsy and ordered an MRI. He said it was probably a benign tumor. I got the good news that it was definitely benign as I was being wheeled out of the operating room, after 6 or 7 hours of surgery. I went home the next day. I needed help for about 3 days and pain meds for 2 weeks. At three weeks, I felt at my normal energy level and I started getting mild exercise. I waited until 5 weeks before lifting weights and going swimming. When I first got home, my ear felt like a tuning fork that stuck out about 4 inches from my head. Even a little touch would make it feel like that tuning fork was being shoved into my head. Chewing food would make my ear hurt. It’s been 6 and half weeks now. The swelling is still going down gradually. Stabbing ear pains have pretty much stopped. The ear is still extra sensitive to pressure- (like my ears pop when I go up a hill in the car.) The internal stitches that haven’t dissolved yet are making a pucker by my ear and it feels like my skin has been stapled to my head there. When I turn to the opposite side, it pulls my ear! I still have the feeling that I have a cardboard ear stuck on my head.(numbness)
All of these sensations are gradually getting better. I thought this might be a less invasive operation than it was. I have to say it feels really weird for a really long time.
I’ve been rubbing both sides of my head and ears simultaneously to help my left side remember how it’s supposed to feel.
The scar is still raised and lumpy but it’s not that noticeable. Seems to be settling down.
Good luck to everyone in surgery and healing up!
Hi everyone,
First I must say this is by far the most informative site. I too have been diagnosed with a pleomorphic adenoma (3.0 x 3.5cm). I see the surgeon on February 12th to decide when surgery is. My question to everyone is: Did your surgeons do fine needle aspiration biopsy (FNA) before surgery to check for malignancy or did they go right to tumor resection? I am from Toronto Canada and from the literature I have been reading, most doctors go right to resection.
Good luck to everyone and thank you again for all of your information.
Nancy,
I’m not a Dr. but I would imagine that most Dr’s will want to remove the tumor no matter if it is benign or not. It is a bit strange that they don’t want to do an FNA first but no matter the results, they would probably want to remove it anyway. If you have concerns you should certainly ask your Dr about this before the surgery. Their priority should be your comfort and safety!
Hi All! I had my surgery yesterday on the 26th of Jan. It was a day surgery procedure, in at 8:00 and home by 12:00 noon. Overall I feel pretty good. I went back to the surgeon today to have the drain removed (he did a good job and I barely felt it coming out). They cleaned it with some betadine, I noticed that as they swabbed around my ear it was pretty numb. I figure that is normal from all the other comments. The pain is pretty minimal, I have only taken a couple of tylenol. My tumor was relatively small (almond size), the doctor said it was good to do this while it was small, less risk to other tissues. They actually did a small muscle flap to reduce the chance of a “dent” where the tumor was removed. I see the doctor in 5 more days to remove the stitches. I have a question for everyone, How are you comfortable brushing your teeth, I don’t feel like opening my mouth very wide? Thank you for everyone’s support and information. Continued good healing to all!
Hi Nancy C, Yes my doctor did a FNA twice infact as the first came back inconclusive plus I had an MRI scan. Congratulations Diane you were in and out very quickly that was good as I arrived at the hospital at 7.20am operated at 9.15am went on to the ward at 12.45pm and was sent home the next day. I did not brush my teeth until day two and I could eat and drink straight away, its been 5 weeks now and I can still feel pain its still uncomforable to sleep on the side where they took the tumour out I get more headaches now than ever and its still tender, and some parts are still numb, but so glad its out.
Hi, I had my operation the 6th of januari as I wrote before, the site started to swell and the Dr. drained it with a needle. The first time it was filled with puse. It keep swelling and I have to go to the Dr. to drain with needle every pass a day. The fluid is now clear and it is saliva. I went almost 8 times.
I don’t know when it will stop swelling.
I amm tired to go to the Dr. office, but my faith is still strong. I have no pain, I had to take antibiotics for a week.
God’s blessing on you all/
Thank you for your responses. The reason I believe they are not doing a FNA is that the location of my tumor is too far back (and pressing on the bottom part of the cranium). I have already had my MRI and was told that there is carotid artery involvement as well. I see the surgeon on the 12th of February and I will once again discuss the FNA with him. Good luck to all of you in your surgeries and recovery.
I have thought a lot about Margarita’s earlier comment about how we are using our voices. I wanted to write about all the crazy symptoms I’ve had in the healing process because my doctor didn’t tell me about these things. I can see why doctors might not want to tell you all the wacky symptoms because from what I gather they recommend taking these tumors out, whether they’re benign or not- so they don’t want to scare you away from the surgery. (I had a fine needle biopsy and MRI, results not conclusive, but the doctor recommended taking it out in any case.)
Back to how we use our voices- I don’t want to scare anybody about the surgery with this discussion of symptoms. For the most part, all the people who told me, “Relax, it’s going to be fine,” were right. It’s been fine. It gets a little better every day. I just wasn’t prepared for how weird it feels to have part of your head numb for so long and how long it would take to heal.
I could eat right away, but chewing would make my ear hurt afterward and would make sounds more distant in my head, so I liked oatmeal and soup a lot for a while. At first, I was kind of cramming the food into a partially closed mouth. By about 4 weeks my jaw was loose enough to yawn normally.
I had asked my doctor how I would feel after the operation because I had an all-day marathon, strenuous cooking project coming up and wondered if I should wait until after to do the surgery. My doctor said I could probably do whatever I wanted at a week after surgery. This was SO NOT TRUE for me, at one week after the surgery I was stunned that he said that. I’m sure he was trying to tell me from the best of his knowledge-I guess his other patients had an easier time. At one week, I was back to cooking dinner and doing some dishes- but I was spending most of my day resting in bed, eating soft food and taking pain meds every 4 hours. If I were advising myself on this issue, I would have said to wait 5 or 6 weeks after this operation before doing a 10-hour cooking marathon that involves lifting heavy stuff. Fortunately, the cooking job came up before the operation.
The good news about this operation, for the people who need to have it, is that the location of the scar makes it not very noticeable. Even a week after the surgery, I had to point out where the 6 inch long incision was. It’s obvious when I point it out, but people just don’t notice it because it’s in the natural creases in front of my ear and in my neck.
It’s been 8 weeks now. I’m back to all normal activity and rarely have any pain. The doctor said I can rub Vitamin E oil or cream on the scar. He also said I can rub the puckered place in front of my ear where stitches under the skin have not dissolved yet, to loosen it up. It’s still very tightly tacked right there. It still pulls on my ear when I turn my head, but not as much as two weeks ago. My cheek is still a little puffy and partially numb and I still have some of the foreign-object attached-to-my-head feeling with my ear, but these feelings are slowly getting better.
Good luck to everyone.
Barbara its been five weeks for me and everything you have said is so correct my scar feels so tight behind my ear, I will start to use skintensive cream for the scar tissue tonite. I do HATE touching all of the area because of the weird and strange feelings of it not being normal, my ear is the worst I call it an elehpants ear because it feels huge but does not look huge its still a little swollen though. ( The sensations I get around and in the area are a little unnerving but I’m just a big wimp). Love Nat
Age 21. I first left a comment on 13th Oct 09 and again on the 31st October 09, a few days after surgery. it is now 3 months since i had the operation so i thought i would update. part of my lower face is still half numb as is my lower ear, which when i touch it feels like pins and needles, but it doesnt bother me. When i woke up from surgery i had some nerve damage which effected the use of part of my lower lip. When i spoke i had a lisp and when i tried to smile my lip stayed in the same place, so this was really distressing. but 3 months on my smile is back to normal and the lisp has gone. it is amazing how the human body, when left to rest, can heal itself. There is still a little tightness when i try to turn my head to the left but nothing compared to when i first had the op and i couldnt look left at all. The feeling round my scar has started to come back and it can be a little tender but only if i prod and poke it
It is sensitive when i go outside and the cold air hits my scar but overall i am really happy with the results, they have made a neat incision and the tumour was 100% benign! bonus!!
hi, i just came across this site thank God, as i am now on 2nd round of antibiotics for my”just an infected /swollen lymph node! I definitely plan to go to an ent doctor as soon as i can afford to(currently no insurance/full-time student) but i also had a question to anyone out there who could let me know if had similar problem, i now have not only the hard painful lump in front of my ear,but a very painful smaller movable one up under my jaw area,same side of face! also about a week after discovering first lump and trying to rub it loose abit, i developed an infection in my eye on that side????
Hello Heather,
The two lumps may be the same thing if it is a pleomorphic adenoma. From what I know, the tumor can “branch out” and start growing another mass away from the original one. I also have a smaller movable lump under my right jaw (same side as the original tumor) but after a CT and MRI, they say it is nothing (which I do not believe because I can feel and move the thing!).
You should definitely try to see an ENT. I can only assume that you are here in the states since you don’t have coverage (sad but true). Perhaps your school has a cheap insurance plan that you can go on at least temporarily until you can determine what exactly the lump is. You don’t necessarily have to get it removed right away if it’s benign but it’s good to find out for sure.
Kirsty, glad to hear your nerve damage is healing. I’ve noticed my smile is slightly higher on the surgery side. I haven’t been too concerned about it so far because at 2 months I still have some swelling on my cheek and undissolved stitches under the skin are still making me feel tacked down next to my ear. So I’m hoping when that stuff settles down, the smile will even out. Sounds like you came a long way, so I’m encouraged.
Nathalie, I like your term “elephant ear.” I’m saving that one for my list of wacky symptoms that happen after this surgery. I’ve been calling it “my dummy ear,” but I didn’t have a term for the feeling, which I also had, that the ear is far bigger than it really is. I haven’t had elephant ear for a couple of weeks! I still have a bit of cardboard ear. I keep doing a little physical therapy on myself all day long - rubbing, stroking, tapping, the good side at the same time as the numb side, trying to “tune it up” and get the feeling to come back. Don’t know if what I’m doing is helping but the numb area seems to be getting smaller and also less numb. A couple of weeks ago I went to the dentist. She suggested another physical therapy for the tight jaw - to warm up your face with warm steaming washcloths, then gently stretch it open and shut. Now my jaw is better. I went to the dentist again the other day and they had my mouth propped open for most of two hours putting a crown on, and I was okay afterward.
Good luck, Heather. Good advice, Brandon.
Good luck to everyone in healing.
Well, I just saw the doctor yesterday to get my stitches out, it is 1 week today. Everything I have read here is about the same for me–my ear is totally numb and I agree, feels like an elephant ear. Also a small part of my cheek by the ear. The doctor said this should improve over the next year. I don’t seem to need anymore pain meds, it just feels tight. I had a little reaction to some topical antibiotic on my incision so had a little rash around that area, doctor just has me put some hydrocortisone cream on it. It has improved today. The pathology report said the tumor was benign, YEAH! I can move my head better and open my mouth more, still like to chew soft things (but can’t wait to have some granola cereal). It does feel weird to touch my ear because it is numb-can’t feel the warm water or heat from the blow dryer (got to wash my hair for the first time in a week:) Sounds like we are all going through about the same thing. Margarita take care of your infection and Barbara and Nathalie thanks for the update, you are a few weeks ahead of me. Keep up the good healing!!!!!!
I just found this site - amazing! I had a total parotidectomy 25 years ago at UPenn. Surgery went well and after a few months, I felt totally healed with very little scarring. The bad news is that after so many years, my tumor has returned. It is benign (FNA) and the tumor board at Penn recommended a wait and see attitude since the second surgery is more complicated due to potential nerve damage than the first. I am a little nervous about that but will be going for MRI’s every 6 months. I had my first surgery at 36 so I guess I can’t complain at 61! My only recommendation to all would be to find the best surgeon in your area - someone who does this type of surgery frequently.
thanks for the advice brandon, i definitely will b trying to get some form of med ins and see an ent very soon. my headaches r getting worse,and today at school(im studying to be an echo sonographer tech/ultrasound of the heart)another student and i scanned the area to see if we could see anything and both are HUGE! so now im even more concerned!anyway thnx again for this site,somehow it calms me a bit.
Hi All, Hope everyone is okay. just letting you know I have received an unexpected letter for an appointent to see an ONCOLOGY Doctor I think its about the radiotherapy so not happy can anyone shed any light? Thanks Nat.
hi guys, i just found this web sight and im glad that i came upon it because i just had a fna a week ago and the doctor told me right away that it waspleomorhic adnoma (i cant spell it that well) and im so nervious about what my ent doctors is going to say because i already know that i have to get segurey done and im scared ive never had to do sergery before and im scared of what could go wrong in and out of the sergery and it is comforting that i can read all of your stories and know what to expect my ent appointment is this thursday 2/11 and im so scared for one thing i was hoping to hear that i could wait to do the sergery till after im married because im so scared that something with my nevers will go wrong and stuff so do you guys think that i could wait like 4 months to have the sergery? and i was also wanting to know if there was something other than being put to sleep for the sergery because im so scared to be put to sleep can some one help me please
Hi Brittany, I think you may be getting yourself all worked up for nothing being put to sleep is no big deal I think it was good for me because I needed a good sleep, as for putting the op off for four months I think that would be no problem but this will be down to the doctor. Please STOP worrying. Good Luck with your op and best wishes for your Wedding Day Love Nat.
thank u so much after reading this and talking to some ppl i go to skool with i feel a lil better and ill keep u guys posted thanks a whole lot nathalie
Thats okay Brittany happy to help
you will be fine on Thursday just tell the doc about your concerns Love Nat.
well the doc said that would be fine so i think im getting the op in june i feel a lil better now that i talked to him and had a lot of questions and the docs seems like he knows whats he doing and said all of his recent ops have been good so that makes me feel a lot better to well ill lets u guys know how it went and thanks again
Hi All, Just come back from seeing ONCOLOGY Doctor about radiotherapy and I do NOT need to have any how FANTASTIC, am so relieved, I do need to go back and see him in six months though. Hope everyones ok please keep in touch. Love Nat.
Brittany, so glad to hear that you’re feeling better about the whole thing and that you can put it off til a better time. Sounds like a lot of people have had these for years before they even knew what it was, so I thought it would be okay to wait 4 months- but everybody’s case is different - so glad to hear your doctor’s good with that.
Nathalie, great to hear that you don’t need radiotherapy. Why did they want you to see an oncologist? Is that standard practice in Britain for this kind of tumor or was it something particular about your case? How are you feeling now?
Last week I woke up and the first thought I had wasn’t about my funny-feeling head. This seems like progress because for the 10 weeks since my surgery, that has been my first thought on regaining consciousness every morning. I’m still waiting for internal stitches to dissolve. I’m still feeling tacked down in front of my ear, where there is a pucker in the skin from these stitches. I’ve been rubbing it, as the doctor suggested, to loosen it. When I rub it for a minute, it causes a twinge in my still-mostly-numb ear lobe. The scar continues to melt into my neck. I keep feeling the ridge going down. Feels like there may be some undissolved stitches in the scar, too. Feels like fishing line underneath the skin. So, I’m looking forward to seeing what it feels like without the stitches. The doctor said they’re made to dissolve in two- three months- so should be any time. I still have a bit of numbness- in my lower ear, and in front and in back of the ear. My cheek next to my ear, where the doc took out the tumor, is still a little puffy. It’s all gradually getting better and attracting less of my attention.
Good luck to all. Keep in touch.
Hi Barbara, I do not know why I had to see an oncologist and do not know whether it is standard practice here in Britain but will see the guy who did the op in April and ask him as it was his idea. I’m at eight weeks now and still hate touching my scar I have a large dent where the lump has been removed which I have just started to notice, my smile has come back but not fully and my eye is correcting its self slowly but surely. The dumbness around my ear face and parts of my scar are still there, I have thought of a new word which we can add to our collection its WOOD ear its not as good as Elephant ear though lol. Hope them stitches of yours dissolve soon as mine stuck out from the skin which I had to cut with scissors as it was so long but after a few days I could pull it out and another peice just came away. Good Luck and Happy Healing Love Nat
Hi Everyone,
I had my appointment with the ENT on Friday and found out that the tumor has grown larger since Christmas. It is now 4.0 x 3.5 x 2.5cm. The MRI indicated low level malignancy cannot be ruled out. In the past 3 weeks I have noticed that swallowing has been quite difficult and the doctor said it is now displacing my airway slightly. Therefore surgery will be done as soon as possible. They are aiming for the first week of March. I am just frustrated with the feeling of having something stuck in my throat all of the time. They are not doing a FNA Brandon because the tumor is not appreciated in the neck as it is growing deep inside and toward the base of the cranium. He said that the surgery will be roughly 4 hours as there is carotid artery to work around as well as various nerves because of the size.
I wish everyone well with their recovery and upcoming operations. Thank you all for your input and tips on what to look for after surgery. I will keep you posted.
God Bless,
Nancy
Hi Everyone, I first left a comment to Brandon back in March 09, my surgeon was looking at taking out my tumor when I was 20 weeks pregnant but decided not to as it had not grown, he (thankfully) wanted to wait till I had my baby and established a routine. Well that time has come, I now have a beautiful little baby boy who is 6 months old next week and my operation is scheduled for march 1. I am so glad that this site has taken off like it has as only when I scheduled my op did the surgeon tell me of the possible risks and like yourself Nathalie he said that I may have to have radiotherapy to reduce the chance of it returning. I must admit I am a little fearful about the operation, but I guess that is just the unknown. I am in Australia and the surgeon I am seeing is a treasure, monitored me throughout my pregnancy and was very thorough, even trying to aspirate it as it is half fluid and half solid mass. I had my CT scan recently to locate nerves prior to surgery and apparently it is superficial to the nerve, so I am hoping it wont be as challenging as first thought to remove. So again Brandon, thank you so much for what you have begun it is apparent that you have helped so many others, and to everyone else who has taken the time to share and be there for others, you are amazing…. I will be back after the 1st to fill you in on my experience.
Keep smiling
Tash
i was woundering if anyone had any problems with the sergery while they were put to sleep if u could let me know that would be great because im not putting up with the whole thing of being put to sleep because i have never had to be put to sleep before or have any sergery thanks
Brittany,
You said earlier that you wanted to wait till after your wedding for your surgery, speak to your surgeon about this but I dont think it should be an issue, as I initially found my lump back 7 years ago and was only last year referred to a surgeon who chose to wait till after my pregnancy, so 4 months should be fine….
As for the anaesthtic, it is daunting and overwhelming, but one minute your counting backwards and the next minute someone is calling you name quietly to wake you up, you may feel slightly groggy, but generally thats it, (from my few experiences). I was told that with my surgery they will get me to stand and walk around as soon as I can after waking, so Im assuming it wont be too bad with the anaesthetic. Unfortunately with this operation there is no alternative to a general anaesthetic, due to having to locate nerves etc it is by far the best thing to have a general. Try not to stress to much, I know its easier said then done, my biggest concern with the op is the risk of nerve damage, but by the sounds of it everyone here has come out extremely well….
Take Care
Tash
Hello,
I recently found out I had one of these things in my face - my ENT sent me for an MRI to locate where it was, what it was, and what it was doing there. He never did do a biopsy as he says it should come out either way and it wouldn’t matter. I have not yet scheduled the surgery (I just found out on Friday). I do know he ordered a nerve monitor for it though, and a specific helper he likes, just don’t have an exact day yet.
Thanks to you all for this information, and for sharing your stories and experiences. I didn’t know what this was or anything about the surgery, and I was so worried about the permanent possibility of all the side effects like facial paralysis that I couldn’t think straight! It is important and appreciated.
Hey all, just have read all the comments. Much the same story of the doctors not figuring out what it is, I noticed the lump 5 years ago. I just got the call from surgeon today and I am booked to go in March 16th, after reading all this stuff I moved up my dentist appointment so I don’t have to worry about that anytime after the date. I wonder if anyone has asked to see the tumor or take it home once it has been removed, LOL, maybe that is a guy thing. Hope everyone is recovering well. Nervous about everything but every relieved that I have the date now for this, and I am grateful you all have posted comments as I feel the more information I have the better off I am as I can’t stop thinking about it now. keep you posted.
Andre, I asked my doctor right after the surgery if I could see what was taken out, but he said it was “gone.” They sent it to the lab while they were still operating, so that when I woke up, they told me right away that it was definitely benign. I read somewhere that they have to slice it to analyze it. I still want to ask my doctor how big it was. My doc is a man of few words-hard to get much out of him. Good surgeon though.
Tash, I was so glad to hear that you were able to wait until after you had your baby and got off to a good start together before having this operation. I had read your story earlier and was concerned about the safety of operating on a pregnant woman. Seems like a much better time in your life to do it now. I’ll be thinking of you March 1st.
NancyC, lots of luck, hope your surgery goes well and will make you feel better soon.
Brittany, I’ve had anesthesia 4 times now- first when I was 3, for tonsillectomy, then at 14 for dental surgery and twice now as an adult. Each time it’s been pretty much the same. I went to sleep literally in seconds and woke up what seemed like 5 minutes later, feeling fine. My surgery this time was about 7 hours long. The doctor had said 3 hours but when he went to trace one of the branches of my facial nerve, it went further down my neck than most people’s, and it just took longer.
The only bad effect that I had was that I had a dry throat that night. I was drinking pitchers of water all night. The nurses and aides who work in the hospital are quite used to getting scared and nervous people through their experiences. They are really nice and if you ask them will do anything they can to make you comfortable. Even though I’d had anesthesia before, I was still worried. I always toss and turn in my sleep, and I cough during the night. What if I move during the operation? What if I cough and start choking and can’t breathe? They assured me that I would be too “out” to be moving around. They said that the anesthesiologist’s whole job is to constantly monitor your breathing and heartbeat throughout the operation. So not to worry. Hope this helps.
Hi Everyone!
Well I had my surgery. I didn’t tell you guys before, that I had this tumor removed 9 years ago assuming it was just calcium deposit. Apparently it was lack of communication because checking old records it was a benign tumor then. Anyway it made my surgery a little more intense, (scar tissue). So, He goes in and finds that the tumor was completely entangled with my nerves and had grown attached to my skin. So it took 3 hours and was as big as my doctors thumb which is large! Anyway he got it all out. I went in to my follow up appointment 4 days later to remove my drain, still not knowing much because I hadn’t spoken to him yet since surgery, he asked me what is not working and I told him my upper left lip, which is the same side of the tumor. to be cont.
cont.
as well as a little bit in my cheek, cant pucker or fully smile, well as I was saying this I was thinking he was going to say, “Don’t worry that will take time but will return” but no…He said that he was releived because he had to bend and move so many nerves to remove this tumor that he had thought I would have lost much more ability…. OMG! I kind of freeked. I am so thankful……I can deal with the lack of puckering and a little bit less of a smile, but droop would have killed my self esteam…. Anyway my face is sunk in like it is missing a whole section. Has anyone had this? How long did it take your face to fill back in? Besides all the fear and dangers all went well, and I’m alive…..Thank you all for your information it has definately helped me through this. I also thank GOD……
By the way my doctor is Allen Yates of Modesto, and I owe my life to him……He is a wonderful doctor and had several one on ones with me explaining in detail what he was going to do as well as what he did. I would definately recomment him to anyone…..
Andre,
I asked to see mine too but it went to the lab…darnit! Not a guy thing or maybe it’s the tawnboy still in me…lol
ps. does anyone know when I can sleep horizontally with out any type of danger, like fluid not coming out or anything like that?
Hi Michelle, Glad everything went well with your op. I think its down to you when you feel comfortable sleeping horizontally it took me about four nights after my op to get comfortable enough to lay flat but were all different so just do it when your ready I do not think there will be any danger. So good luck keep in touch Love Nat
Hi Nathalie,
Thank you. it’s been six days today and I feel great! I am really stiff though (in my neck) the pain is definately barable now. The headaches were my biggest problem since November. I had no other problems with my tumor other than it stuck out of my face. But it didn’t start giving me headaches until they did the original biopsy. I don’t know if it were coincidental or what, but whoo hoo did my head hurt daily. I have been taking vicodin all this time and when I tried to stop I had withdrawal symptoms…that sucked so the doc said to wein myself off the vics. I was taking around 9 to 10 500’s daily now only 5 yesterday and I will do 4 today. My doc took me off work for 3 wks, to me that is a long time. How about you guys?
hey guys a little infor for the one’s about to go under,
They usually ask you not to eat or drink after 12 midnight but I always still get extremely naucious and vomit atfer surgery anyway, this time I didn’t eat after 7 because someone told me to try that and it worked! Other than some pain I wasn’t naucious for the first time after surgery in my life. Oh and I haven’t had much pain problems and I think it’s because I have slept sitting up for 5 nights, which someone said to do on this blog. I love this blog!!! You guys have helped me sooooo much…. Thank you.
Dorolyn,
I just read your blog again, and realized that we have more in common. We both had the surgery more than once. And we both have had facial paralysis….I am not trying to scare you guys, but if the situation calls for surgery again I would advise you to go to a well known surgeon who has delt with this many of times like I did, because i waited, I believe my surgery went better than expected….I am not bashing other surgeons with less experience but I feel that if one with less experience came across my tumor I would have lossed a lot more ability in my face….
ps. I waited for this surgeon to have an opening for me for 4 months. I was very impatient and in pain, but it was well worth it he did an awesome job….
Michelle, my doctor told me I would miss a month of work, I was shocked it was that long but if that is what he recommends that is what i am going to do. I am getting a little flack about it from work but screw them… I lift things all the time in my job and they told me that my neck wasn’t needed for lifting… nice isn’t it?! I would be interested to know how much time people have missed from work as well. The nice thing is my company has a benefit plan so I can miss 6 weeks of work at full pay if the DR says I can…
I wonder if you need to ask the doctor before the surgery if you want to see it, I am going to try that and let you know. From the ultrasound I already know it is 2.5cm (let see that is 1 inch for my US buddies) I think that sounds big but what the hell do I know….
Hi Andre, I think YOU will need 6 wks off I had my op 9wks ago and am still recovering I am back at work tho but do not do any lifting which WLL put a real strain on your neck believe me. You need to take it easy for as long as you can but saying that we all heal differently Good Luck with your op keep in touch Love Nat.
Andre,
Good idea about asking for the tumor pre-op! I myself do not have to strain at work I am a Medical Coder so I am just on the computer and pushing a pen, so I couldn’t imagine staying off work that long but in your case I would espeacially if your gettn paid! Good luck with your op and keep us posted.
Michelle
Hi Guys,
Well this is it. I am getting ready to go in to hospital early tomorrow morning and although everything everyone has said is greatly informative, I am still crapping my pants…. My surgeon has told me that it will prob be about 3 hours, will seem like a split second for me but not for the people waiting…. I am scared of what they will find when they get in there even though they said it “appears” superficial to the nerve. Mine tumor is quite large 4.3 x3.2 x3.4 so will be very interesting to see how this all pans out.
As for asking to see it, I have already been told that it will have to go to pathology as soon as it is removed to def rule out malignancy, even though a biopsy has come back benign.
So here goes, treating myself to a lkovely meal out with my fam tonight as not too sure when I will be able to chew as surgeon said this could be a while and a liquid diet will be on the menu for a while.. (has anyone else had this?)
Speak to you all soon……
Tash
Hi Tash, I was able to chew hrs after my op so hope its the same for you Good Luck please keep in touch Love Nat.
Tash,
I was able to chew too but if I did eat something chewy boy did it bring on pain after…..I would not advise this for at least a week. I have been eating soup, crab, oatmeal stuff like that, I know boring but better than pain….
My tumor was 4 inches long and 2 wide and was benign. What I haven’t read on this sight is that this could happen, probably because no one experienced this. I have a sunk in face because the tumor imbedded itself into my cheek and removing it made my face sink in…..I also lost the ability to move my upper left lip….They called me Friday and told me that it will be the longest part of my recovery for that to fill in and that though there is a possibility he doesnt believe I will be able to move my lip again…..Now understand that I have had this surgery before, 9 years ago at that time it was small. I waited to long and plus scar tissue. They said I have to be checked for this annually and believe me I will not miss an appoitment ever again!!!!! Hope all is well right now with your op, keep us posted…
Michelle
Nat,
How long has it been for you since surgery? I feel like a wimp. The more feeling I get back in my face the more tingling pain I get. Is that normal or did you experience this.
Michelle
Also I am having pain to the touch where the nerves are above my eyebrow has anyone experienced this?
hey guys i was reading something on a page saying that people could have the doc do a different knid of being put to sleep like a light dose where your not on a machine is that true and has anyone every did it? im glad to hear that all your sergerys went well and things and i hope mine does to i have it june 25th and i still have alot of question about how the sergery and recovery went like how long after sergery did you guys wake up and were you in pain and how long could you eat afterwards and is it true tthat as soon as you wake up they make you get out of bed and walk? i will have to stay the night at the hospital when i go so im thinking they are going to do a drain thing and then in the morning take it out well please if you can answer any of my questions that would be great this page helps out a lot of people
Brittany,
Here is how my adventure went,
I didn’t eat after 7pm the night before because I always get really naucious after anesthesia my friend told me to try not eating after 7pm the night before and I did and it worked! My surgery took 2 hr 45 min. He removed a tumor the size of 4 inches long 2 inches wide. I woke up they asked me if I had pain and if so how much on the pain scale I told them about a 5 so they gave me enough for my pain and it was gone, their purpose is to pain manage you and they did! As time passed they asked me if I wanted to try to drink something and I was very thirsty and said yes so I did slowly and that went fine. Then they asked me if I wanted to try to eat some jello and I did because I was starving! I got a little nausious so they gave me nausia medication and I ate more
They told me if I was able to eat and drink I could go home as long as someone or ones could take care of me, it was my decision You see I too assumed I was going to stay in the hospital and have drain removed the next morning, but I was doing great so they sent me home with the plan to remove the drain on my follow-up appt in 5 days, usually it’s 4 days but my doc wasn’t in until 5 days later. they sent me home with a perscription for norco 1000. Anyways, I learned on this cite to plan to sleep sitting up due to laying flat causes pressure which causes pain, so my family created this blanket and pillow bed on the couch which kept me comfortable in the sit up position facing the television which I have been sleeping comfortably ever since. My follow-up appt he removed the drain, uncomfortable and weird but not painful as well as removed every other stitch, I get the rest removed this thursday exactly a week after my last appt. He told me that I can fianally wash my hair, whoo hoo, I washed it in the sink though because he said not to get the open wound wet!! He also sent me home with more pain meds this time vicodin 750 with the attempt to taper me off vicodin, (due to my severe headaches cuz of the tumor I have been on vicodins for months and have built up a tolorance) I think is why it’s taken so many to kill my pain, so you might not need as much as me. It has been 8 days since my surgery and I can feel more of my face and my inscision is looking great. I wake up in the morning remove the bandaid (with gauze like bandage rolled up underneath to absorb drainage) clean with warm water and then I apply neosporin and rebandage. Every day I feel more and more normal. So, I know it sounds scary but all in all it went quite smoothly. I don’t know if you have read all of what I have posted here, but things are not so good for me but that is because I have already had this surgery and I should have been having anual checks to see if it was coming back and I didn’t, so it grew to be extremely large plus alot of scar tissue, and now I no longer have the ability to move my upper left lip and my face is partially caved in but thankfully that part will fill back in in time. My lip only is noticable when I pucker so I am definately blessed. I hope I have helped you. You will be fine….
Michelle
thank you michelle that has helped me alot and the only way i know how big mine is is they say its as big as a grape so that means not to big so im happy ive never had to have sergery so i dont know what to think and my mom says that i will be fine i have read your things you wrote and they help me a whole lot and answer my questions about this sergery im still a lil nervious but this page has helped me out a lot and the doctor is very good and ill make sure that i remind him about the check ups because i dont want this comming back but whats this whole thing about radiation or something and im glad that the only thing that is negative is the upper lip but like you i can deal with that i wont care what people think well it sounds like the sergery will go good for me even tho it is a 3 and half hour op but i feel good about it because of this page and the doctor and i will let everyone know how it went and things thank you guys so much
Brittany,
I am so glad to help you. I don’t know about the radiation stuff your talking about or any other way of going under, all I know is that going under was easy. The first time I did this I was awake, though it was painless of course, it was a terrible experience because I could feel the pressure and hear every squishy thing they were doing I would never suggest doing it that way!!!! anyway talk to ya soon.
Michelle
Hi Michelle, Its now nearly 11weeks for me I’m still tender very numb and hate to touch anywhere around the area its such a strange feeling as the numbness wears off there is pain but its bearable I can still feel that the nerves are trying to mend themselves if you can understand what I mean, I still have to be careful how I sleep as I have sometimes woken up with an achy jaw. The pain above your eyebrows is so so normal I still feel like I’m bruised above mine. I did feel brave the other day and felt along the incision that runs down my neck and it felt lumpy but as Brabara said it may be undissolved stitches in the scar. Hope this helps Love Nat.
Hi Brittany, When I woke up they asked me how I was feeling and I said in pain so they gave me a shot of Morfeen they then took me to a ward where I had to slide off one bed on to another I could of done with some help but did not get any, they then made me comfortable. I only got in to my jimjams when my visitors came to help me that evening, I did not get out of bed till the next morning. Brittany you really need to stop worring now as your op is in June so please try and take your mind off it and enjoy yourself you really are wasting your time and energy on worry your getting worked up and nervous and it just does not help and can make you ill so please stop. I worried that much I lost weight I was so miserable I could not motavate myself to do anything I hated talking on the phone hated anyone coming round and I just sat on the sofa chewing my nails so I know what its like, after my op I felt so ashamed of myself as there was just no need for it so I really and truly understand where your coming from believe me. Sorry to be so forward but I do hope this helps you. Love Nat.
Nat,
OMG it has been 11 weeks!? I know exactly what you mean about feeling like they are mending how weird huh. I also feel like I ate something sour and it hurts. How long until you were off the pain meds? And when did you get back to work? I also wollowed at home stressed out about this tumor I think also because like Brittany I waited a long time to get it out but also I had some serious headaches, probably because my tumor was so big. I definately can tell its out I am in different pain now I don’t feel like my brain is frying like before….
Brittany,
I you aren’t having any symptoms due to the tumor honey then you will be absolutely fine. I had little headaches the first time around and I was a little smaller than a quarter. They got it out heck of quick. You will be fine, like Nat says don’t worry go on with your days like normal. I know it’s easier said than done but in order to stat healthy you need to not be so stressed k. Talk to you soon
Michelle
Brittany I think it is normal to worry. I have never had surgery either and never been put to sleep - I have been worrying most about that, you know watching some movies doesn’t help at all! but I agree with Michelle I would not want to be awake for this… the sounds and smells I would think would be overwhelming. The Doctor was going on and on about how there would be very little scaring, I laugh told him I didn’t care about scares at all, just make sure I can blink after… he didn’t think that was funny, I use humor to deal with stress.
I need a guy who has had this removed to tell me how they shaved after this surgery??? that was something I thought about this weekend as I was shaving… I’m thinking that is going to suck.
Tash hope all is going well, best luck. Let us know as soon as you can…
Hi Michelle, I was off the meds at 10 days and back at work the 8th Jan my op was the 18 Dec 09. Hope your feeling better today:) Andre I don’t think doctors laugh do they and they don’t say much either as mine were just pan faced not good really, but its brill to be able to laugh as you say its a great help in dealing with stress, just laugh I do but people do look at me funny tho cus am a bit wacko and laugh even when there’s nothing to laugh at :). Please let us know how your op goes and I hope a male who has had this op does get in touch soon as I can’t help there cus I don’t grow hair on my face and neck LoL. Good Luck Love Nat P.S Take as much time off work as you can:)
Nat,
Thank you. I can’t take too much time off I already used up my pto and I don’t know how long it will take me to get disability. Today is my ninth day, should I just stop taking pain meds tomorrow? I think I’m being wimpy with the pain….It totally hurts after I eat. I did sleep laying almost flat last night though, yea! And I am feeling much better today but that tingling pain is there, yuk!
Michelle
Hi Michelle, Glad your feeling better. Did your doc not tell you when to stop taking the pain meds? As I was given enough for the ten days which I felt I didn’t need.
Michelle I think pain is a different thing for each person. Don’t feel wimpy because of it, Nat might have only needed it for 10 days but gets a paper cut and you think it is the end of the world
If you have the pain then take a pill. You can always increase the time between pills and see how you are doing…. did I read wrong I thought you were the one getting weeded off vicodin?? if that is the case I wouldn’t do anything unless the doctor recommends it to you… (if I read that wrong… opps, I blame Nat :))
Andre,
Yup, you read it right! I’m the one needing to be weined off vicodin….It sucks….Thanks for the advise, increasing the time between pills is a great idea. I will let you guys know how that works out for me.
Nat,
No he didn’t give me a quit date. I will ask him on this thursday when I see him. He will probably begin the actual quitting procedure though. I had some pretty awful withdrawls when I tried right before my surgery, won’t try that cold turkey stuff ever again!!!!! My legs were twitching all over the place I have never endured that kind of thing in my entire life and I am 41. Thank you guys for your input, I really need it….
Michelle
Hi guys,
Here’s how the recovery timeline went for me:
9 days hydrocodone (Norco) every 4 hours (decreasing the dose as days went on)
11th and 12th day- transition to ibuprofen 4x day. Able to lie down on surgery ear a little while for first time.
13th and 14th day- ibuprofen 3x per day
2 weeks- Take pain med only when needed.
2 1/2 weeks- stay up all day (no nap)
3 weeks- normal energy for daily activity, play tennis first time.
5-6 weeks- ready to lift weight (bending over and lifting weight put strain on your scar)
I could eat right after surgery, but I noticed that doing a lot of chewing would make sound more distant in my ear, and would make my ear and bones in my head hurt 10 minutes later. So I tried to eat softer food because it was more pleasant, but I could chew something if I wanted to.
Now it’s almost 3 months. I still have a little numbness and a little swelling and tenderness around my ear, in my lower ear and in my cheek. I still have a tacked-down place in front of my ear where the stitches haven’t dissolved, but it seems to have less connection to my neck than it used to. I still have a little extra pressure in the surgery ear, and it seems to still have trouble draining water. ( glug, glug, glug.) Otherwise, it’s feeling more normal all the time.
Good healing everyone.
Hi Michelle, How you feeling today? Cold turkey sounds real bad, the doctor will help you to cut down on the pain mends it will just take time but you will get there. You have not said where they made the incision mine is in front of my ear it then goes down behind my ear and then straight down my neck. Oh I’m 46 by the way. Love Nat
Hi Barbara, You always make me feel so much better about my own healing I’m two weeks behind you and everything you say is so true from the numbness, tenderness, swelling and that tacked down feeling it just all feels alien but for me its been that long I have gotten used to it. My eye still stays open more than the other but no one seems to notice well maybe they do notice but they don’t say anything so thats okay. I still have to use the eye drops though. My smile is so much better than it used to be but if I talk to much I sometimes sound a little drunk but am not drunk ha honestly Love Nat
Hi Nat,
My inscision is just as yours, sounds like it exactly! What a trip we are almost the same age, lol. I am hating this pain that feels like I ate somthing sour! yuk! I still do not know if he removed my salavary gland and won’t find out til this thurs. I too sound as if I am drunk when I talk. lol. talk to ya soon.
Michelle
oh, and I also had the gastric bipass in 2006 so I can’t switch to ibuprofin….You are so lucky that you could Barbara…..
Haha Andre, a paper cut lol shh
Dont understand the second bit what u blaming me for? :O
Love Nat
Hi All, To anyone having this op I would advise you to buy some surgical spirit and cotton pads so you can clean your incision and the surrounding area, I wish I had thought of this before I had my op as mine became infected, it will remove any dry blood and it will keep the area infection free. Hope this helps Love Nat
Hi to everyone. A very informative site. I am now adding my name to the list as I had the operation last Monday 1st March. Having read everyones experiences I was more than ready for the operation. The operation lasted 2hrs 45 minutes. Obviously woke up with the drain in which surprisingly had very little discharge. I was well enough to have the drain taken out the following day and discharged later that same day. The removal of the drain was pain free. I admit that I must have luck on my side as I have been able to eat reasonably well and drinking through a straw. I was told that I would have numbness of the ear lobe but unbelievably this is not the case. My mouth has dropped slightly and have numbness on my lower lip
I do have issues trying to sleep like the majority of you but I am sure it will improve in time.
My surgeon was Mr Menhesua at Colchester General. He put me at my ease from the get go and today he rang me at home to tell me the tumour was benign……….What a relief. Hospitals in England have had bad press of late but I can not thank all the staff and of course my surgeon at Colchester General, they were first class. Judy
I would like to know the reoccurnce rate on these tumors. I had a benign one removed 2 years ago this past feb, it was the most common one. I think sometimes I can feel a small hard knot in front of my ear I can only feel it when I am opening my mouth. The tumor I had removed was soft…..my surgery went great no facial paralisis and you cannot see my scar at all.
Lisa my doctor told me it was a 5% chance for it to come back…. hope that helps…. because you have had one I would think it would be easy to get an ultrasound again to check into it - of course depending on were you live that might cost you (free in Canada) but I think whatever the cost it would be worth it in the end. Could be something silly like a stitch that never dissolved….
Hi All,
Well its day 4 after my surgery and Im doing well. What was supposed to be a 3 hour op ended up being a 1.5 hr operation which is fantastic. I have no paralysis at all but I have a completely numb ear and partially numb cheek. My surgeon, (who is also a complete angel) was initally concerned about my eyelid as the tumor was superficial to the nerves but had actually grown so large it had stretched the nerve, but its all good. So I am wondering whether this caused headaches that I used to have behind my eye. I had a drain for 24 hours and was extremely anxious about having it removed however it was painless. My surgeon had me stay in hospital for 2 nights and he said if I wasnt up to going home I could stay longer but I felt fine, and I missed my little man. Sleeping is fine, in hospital they made sure that I was elevated slightly but I dont have to do that now. I have been allowed to shower and wash my hair and all I have to do is dry off the gauze cover with a hair dryer after. I am allowed to take off the cover tomorrow and leave the area uncovered to heal and he also said that I can moisturise or use Vit E oil on the area if I wish but feels the scarring will be minimal.
I am in minimal pain unless I talk too much or chew, trying to eat causes nasty pain down my jaw line, along the incision. I am slightly sunken in behind my ear where the tumor was but he feels that this will fill in over time. He said that I will get all feeling back in my cheek, however my ear may take 12 months and it may only be about 70%, but when I look at what could have been I am so grateful for how it has panned out. I didnt take morphine after my op, I just had Digesic 4 hrly, never heard of them before but they worked for me, now I have just been taking nurofen, pretty much twice a day..
My tumor came back benign which is also another blessing and because the op went so well and he managed to get it all he does not want me to have radiation therapy, but I have to see him 6 monthly for 4 years to monitor reoccurance.
Feeling numb in the ear is quite bizarre I feel like I have had an ear transplant, it feels like something is stuck on the side of my head. and I hate it when you get itchy as you can feel it but can not satisfy the itch by scratching, very odd feeling.
I also had to have leg compression bandages and calf stimulators on during my surgery and I also had to have them on over night for the first night after op, these were great, felt like getting a leg massage over night, quite relaxing all except for the air compressor that was running it being quite noisy, therefore I had minimal sleep my first night after the surgery. Did anyone else have these? I had them to reduce the chances of DVT.
I am a little puffy in the cheek area, and I feel pressure in the wound area when I bend over and wow do I get tired easily..
Has anyone had or heard of a fistula as a result of the surgery? My surgeon said that this is a possiblity but will not be permanent, It is a saliva pocket in the cheek area? Was just wondering how you would recognise the difference between a fistula to general swellling.
Thanks everyone for all your info and support it was really comforting going into this knowing that there was so many people who you could chat to about your fears and concerns.
Thanks guys, best of luck to everyone, xx
Hi Tash, So glad everything went well for you good Luck with your healing. Love Nat
Hi Tash,
So glad everything went well and that you are on the road to recovery.
Judy, glad to hear you are doing so well after surgery.
I am scheduled for the end of March so I hope all goes as smoothly as everyone’s has. I was told that I would be staying overnight in hospital for 5 days. I hope it is less. There is no place like home when trying to rest.
All the best to everyone.
Hey Tash! So glad things went well for you and you’re home. Welcome to the numb ear club!
In the hospital where I was, I think they had leg compression devices on every bed - soft white things that velcro around your legs with tubes that blow them up with air and relax every minute. These things were great! I have bad circulation and would have been miserable with all that lying in bed and no exercise if not for these things. Only problem was that whenever the air was cut off, (like I turned over in bed and squashed them,) they would start beeping. At first, hospital staff had to come in and help me. After a while I learned that if they wouldn’t stop beeping when I straightened out the tubes, I could sit up and turn the machine off and on again and it would stop beeping. I was up pretty much all night after surgery. At first I thought I was hyper-alert and cheerful because my operation had gone well and I was relieved. After hours of watching politics, news and Animal Planet, I got out my homework at 4:30 AM. I was clearly “on drugs!” Usually I fall asleep easily, in front of everything. That’s okay, I’d rather feel hospital happy drugs than the real feeling that was in my head at that point.
Good healing, Tash. Rest up.
Tash,
Congrats on your surgery going sooooo well.
You sound awsome.
Lisa,
The chance of it coming back is great, I know that because everyone I know who had one years ago has told me they have returned. Scary I know…I have had it twice because of this I will do what doc says and have it checked once a year for ever.
:)Michelle
Thanks Guys,
So far so good, however, I took my gauze bandage off yesterday and I have a puffy area very close to where the tumor was, pretty much right on the incision… Does anyone know if this is just normal healing/scar tissue forming. Still struggling to chew, should weigh myself lol, and still getting tired, but other than that feeling good.
Good luck Nancy, will be thinking of you, and Judy hope you are doing well….
Tash
Hi everyone. My stitchers are out on
Monday. Still feeling tired this is probably due to the relief that surgery is over. My surgeon says it should not come back but had to take the saliver gland away as the tumor was large. My surgeon had to take advice before my op as I suffer from Milroys Disease(google it) where the whole of my right side is swollen shoulder to foot. Had a bad Thursday night as the post surgery pain was high. Had to obtain further pain relief, now on codeine phospate solubles. My they are sure good. The only thing is if I take them during the day I feel like a zombie. Therefore I only take them at night so I get a real good nights sleep. Love to everyone and good luck to those whose Op is iminent. Judy xx
Tash, And Anyone
I have the same type of puffy area that came about, that I had noticed, yesterday. I too am concerned and want to know if this is normal. My doc says my next apt isn’t until 2 months so I am wondering if I should call them. Anyone know what this could be?
Tash and Michelle, I don’t know the answer to the questions about these puffy places, but I think you shouldn’t hesitate to call your doctor’s office with any questions you have while you’re healing up. Sometimes a few minutes on the phone with a knowledgeable person can save you worry and give you the info you need to know. You don’t have to wait for your appointment to ask a question. I hate to call, myself, but I did, 3 times, and got answers to my questions.
Hi Guys, Went to have my stitches out today. Unfortunately this has been put back 48 hours due to too much bruising and swelling, Even then they are talking about only taking every other stitch out.
Hi Everyone,
Apparently the puffy bit is due to a fluid build up around internal dissolvable stitches and is nothing to worry about, and will go away on its own, mine has already started to reduce, thankfully as it looked quite nasty.
Hope your swelling goes down soon Judy.
Tash
tash,
Thank you…. I am freaking out! It’s getting bigger, now its kind of puffy behin my ear on the lower part as well. I just noticed it and can’t call until tomorrow and my doc is only in on thursdays.
tks again,
Michelle
Michelle,
I called my surgeon again as my area started to go red and he said that it is a saliva pocket, again nothing to worry about but suggested I put the hypa-fix back on, which is the sticky gauze I had on after the surgery. He said it is quite common after this surgery and said that if it gets too big or annoying that I can come in and he will syringe it, but if its OK hes happy to leave it till my next appt in 2 weeks. I have no external stitches so I am not sure if this is a result of this type of stitching as he mentioned “fluid” earlier. It is not uncomfortable and hasnt grown today, just became red, and it will not affect healing, so I hope this helps you feel a bit better..
I just found it a bit bizarre as I can not feel it so I was quite paranoid about infection etc…. Prob thinks Im stalking him today….
Let me know what they say about yours tomorrow…. Mine has a slight spongy feel to it if that makes sense…
Tash
Tash,
Mine also has a spongy feeling to it. I phoned the doc today and they are having me come in tomorrow. It was his asst. I asked her if it were normal and she said she didn’t know so I will be coming in tomorrow to see his partner because he is in only on thursdays and is really booked. I don’t know if I have internal stitches because I had regular ones. my inscision looks great other than like you a little red. I too cannot feel it so I am also concerned about infection. I personally would like for them to drain it before I go back to work, but with them doing that risks infection so if not necessary, then obviously they won’t. Thank you so much for the info, I was nervous…..
Ps. down to 3 vicodins a day tomorrow is 2.
Michelle
Hi Tash.
Thank you for the information on the swelling. It is good to know that there are others out there who are going through the same symptoms. Hoping to have my stitches out tomorrow. Do you have deep seated pain after eating or talking too much.
Judyxx
Michelle,
Goodluck with your appt, hope it goes well. When do you go back to work? Cant remember if you already mentioned that…. Luckily Im still on maternity leave, so I have my partner on leave helping me with bubs, thankfully, as that has been hard, as he likes to touch your face etc… Its such a wierd feeling being numb, I woke up last night freaking out as I had rolled onto my left side and you dont know if you have “hurt” the incision area as you cant feel that area…
Yay for the vicodin reduction!! Good luck
Judy,
Goodluck having your stitches out, hope your swelling has reduced and they are happy with your progress…. The pain I get from eating and talking too much can be quite intense and your right, deep seated… I felt my deep tissue bruising come out two days ago and it actually hurts to press on my cheek and neck underneath the numb skin, it is so hard to explain to people that although its numb, underneath still hurts and is tender, and worse when you eat and talk….
Goodluck today
Tash x
Wow… We have a TV medical series here called RPA and they just had an episode which showed a lady of 29 having her pleomorphic adenoma removed. It was so interesting actually watching what they do and how they locate the nerves and preserve them througout the surgery, I now have a new found understanding for the tenderness beneath my cheek when I saw how they folded hers over to remove the tumor….. And she woke with a numb ear…. Which the surgeon said to her will dissipate within 6 months! It was so interesting to see….
Tash,
What channel was that? Where are you? I would have loved to see that! Going to the doc today to see whats up with the puffiness. Talk to ya later.
Michelle
ps,
I’m going through the itchiness and can’t feel the scratch
yuk….
Hi Tash
Everything you mentioned in your last post to me is exactly how mine feels. The nurse only took out every other stitch so I have to go back on Friday to have the rest taken out.
Judyx
Hi Guys,
Just got back from the doc. He said the swelling and spunginess is normal fluid retention and unless it gets red or grows alot more, it is nothing to worry about. He advised me to use a heating pad, but to make sure I don’t burn my skin. I also have good and bad news…Good, is that there is a great possibility that I will be able to move my lip again because I can move the corner of my mouth now and It is just a small branch of nerves that are not functioning and he believes that they will eventually. Bad news, is that the indent of my face will not completely fill back up…..And he recommended that I do not get any type of plastic surgery due to the danger of the area to the nerves….I think I would rather the lip problem verses the indent….I already fell deformed….Anyway there is nothing I can do so I must be appreciative that I do not have cancer and that I don’t have facial droop…
Michelle
Michelle, Im so sorry to hear your bad news, but glad to hear that your lip will get better. This situation definatley brings up all sorts of emotions, its not easy….
I am from Australia and the show was on channel 9, called RPA. Apparently you should be able to find it on the net if you want to try to find it. RPA stands for Royal Prince Alfred Hospital.
I have some stinging in my incision today, not too sure if thats a good thing or not.. Whether that means I have feeling coming back or its getting infected…. My partner had a look at it and said its not red or weeping so guess thats a good thing..
Judy, glad to hear they at least started to take out your stitches… ![]()
Keep smiling everyone xx
Tash,
The stinging I believe is normal. I had the same thing. It doesn’t do that anymore though. Now I kind of have a pain that feels like the beginning stages of an earache, well yesterday it felt like that, today it doesn’t as much and the puffiness feels less today, Yea! Thank you for your kindness. I have a long lost cousin that lives in Australia and my aunt won’t give me his location because we don’t get along. How would one find someone over there? I am currently living in Modesto, California, but I am from San Francisco.
Talk to you soon and hope all is well with everyone….
Michelle
If anyone can tell me how to watch the show Tash mentioned, showing the operation, let me know, I’m interested. I found the show on the internet, (RPA,) but not the episode with the pleomorphic adenoma removal.
Hi Everyone,
I just had a look myself to see if the episode can be watched on the net and it can…. Go to http://www.channelnine.ninemsn.com.au/rpa. Click on watch full episode where it mentions Christina who fell off a flying fox, thats the episode
Michelle, to find lost relatives in Australia, we can contact the Salvation Army, they normally put us in the right direction,hope that helps….
My puffiness has gone down but the stinging has become worse, so I went to my Doctor this afternoon, (not my surgeon unfortunately as its too hard to get into the city as we have a stupid car race on all weekend!) but my doctor was great and said that it is not infected and it is just aggrevated by an internal stitch and should calm down soon, once the stitches dissolve, which is great as I was really paranoid about infection… So all good, now I can relax ![]()
Hope this finds everyone well and on the road to recovery… Have a great weekend guys xx
PS I hope it was ok to put the website on here as my comment is awaiting moderation ![]()
Tash
Tash,
I have the stinging too. Still…..I think it’s our nerves trying to find connection, atleast that is how it feels to me.
Hey everyone, just wanted to let everyone know how I am doing, 6 days after the surgery. face hurts way more then I thought possible, and my ear is burning non stop doctor tells me he was able to save the nerve for the ear so that is probably why. I never thought that eating would be this much an issue for me either, any amount of time chewing or talking starts my ear on fire and if I keep going the whole incision begins to burn. So oat meal and soup has been all I have been eating, good times. I have a little droop in the corner of my mouth but Doctor feels that is just temporary. I also have to say the incision is way bigger then I thought it would be. I guess because of the location of the lump he wasn’t able to follow the jaw line so it basically goes straight down from the front of my ear and is about 7 inches long, not that I am worried about scaring but just bigger then I thought. Last night what I believe is saliva started to leak out in one spot, that is sexy LOL. But over all I can’t complain I am doing well and just sleeping away the pain as much as I can. stitches come out in 4 days and I don’t see a reason they wouldn’t take them out. Keep you posted hope everyone is hanging in there.
Hi Andre. So glad to hear from you I was wondering where you’d gone, so glad everything went well with your op and your on the road to recovery, if you need any goss on your healing I’m hear to help. All The best Love Nat
I came across this blog and read every entry. I’m 39 and have been diagnosed with a benign Pleomorphic Adenoma. About 2 yrs ago I noticed a small lump on my jaw line just in front of my ear. I never paid to much atention to it. About a year ago I started getting what has been diagnosed now as Migrain Aura’s. There like lightning bolts that I see for about 30 minutes with mild like stroke symptoms. I went to see a neurologists who sent me for an MRI in November of 09. That is when they said I had a lump in my right parotid. In January 2010 I was sent for a CT scan which showed I had another lump on my left side. In Feb 2010 I was sent for a ultrasound on my neck. The results came back that there was actually 1 on the left and 2 on the right. I went to an ENT and she sent me for a Biopsy 2 weeks ago. During the ultrasound biopsy they found another one on the left side. So now I have 4 in total. Has anyone ever had that many. When I had the biopsy they could not give me numbing as the doctor said they were to close to the facoal nerves and he wanted me to be alert. It really hurt, they biopsied 2 of the 4. I got the results today. My ENT suggested I not have surgery due to the risk of Nerve damage however she sent me to her Senior colleague same day and he suggested I have 1 of the tumors on the left removed as he can feel that one. One of the ones on the right is 1.7 cm but it is too deep and they both suggest I leave that for now and monitor it every six months to a year. So I will have another Biopsy then to see how the other 3 are doing. I am going back to the doctors on April 1st 2010 to discuss surgery. I’m not sure how long I have had the other tumors but I know one just formed within the last month. Does anyone suggest not having the surgery and just risking they don’t grow as I was told that the chance of them becoming Malignant are rare. I am now experincing slight pain in my ear (where the deep one is) and my neck is sore at times. My ENT sia dthat could be from gringing my teeth when I sleep. I can assure you that is not the case as I have never grinded my teeth. I’m really not sure what to do. I have 4 and right now they only feel 1 should be removed. It seems you have all been through alot and I’m scared to go through that. I have a great support system but sometimes I feel they really don’t understand. Emotionally it’s exhausting. I am really sorry for the long comment but I just wanted to see if anyone else has this many and what did you do. THANK YOU FOR READING.
Kim, everything I have read and have been told is they will not stop growing. I am very surprised that they feel they shouldn’t be removed. My Doctor told me they they would do everything they could to save the nerve but explained that as time goes on it will only become a more difficult surgery. If you google this and click on the image search you will see people that have them that are almost the size of their heads! I mean I am no doctor and over all you have to be ok with going either way. I would look around for another doctor to take a look at it. The way I feel right now I am kicking myself that I let them drag this out for 3 years I think maybe my recovery time would be much quicker. I find it strange the number you have appearing as well, I think this is worth looking for another doctor that can give another opinion, if it is the same then go with what they say, if it is different then go with the one that you are most comfortable with. hope that helps
Hi Everyone,
I just had my follow up appt with my surgeon, it has been 23 days since my surgery and all is going extremely well. What I thought was stinging in my incision was an internal stitch poking its way out as it didnt dissolve and he removed it today, which was completely painless. He doesnt want to see me till sept this year, so thats great news.
Andre, I know what you mean about the pain when you eat and talk too much but mine has stopped now, it took about 2 weeks for that to go away, so hang in there, not too long now…
Kim, I too do not understand why they will not remove yours, I agree with Andre that you should see if you can find another doc, can I ask where you are? Maybe someone on here can recommend someone for you, and then go from there…. I have not heard of anyone having more than one at a time tho, good luck and stay in touch with us, this forum really does help with all your uncertainties x
Tash xx
so stitches are out, hurt but it is starting to feel much better already. Doctor had some worries with the saliva dripping because there is blood with it, so I have to apply pressure on it to help it stop, which isn’t helping right now but hopefully soon. Tells me 2 weeks before it could be stopped and to come back if it isn’t, great - hope it stops sooner then that. Chewing still hurts but my ear isn’t burning anymore so that is a great relief. Hope everyone else is hanging in there.
Andre & Tash
Thank you for responding to my entry. When I first went to the ENT her words were there growing timors they will have to be removed. At that time I had 3 tumors - then after the biopsy they found another one. They only did a biopsy on 2 of them. The ENT said that she is not a risk taker and the surgery comes with risk so she suggested we monitor the tumors as they are benign and only have to come out when thye hit a certain size. Also she said that sometimes tumors can take 20 to 30 years to grow to 4 cm and other times they never get that big. She said I would do a biopsy every 6 months to a year to watch the growth and ensure they stay benign. She said that there is only a 3 to 5% they would become malignant. She sent me to her colleague the same day and he looked through all my results and said that the tumor on my left side is 1.7 cm but it’s a soft tumor so right now we can leave that one and monitor it. However the tumor on my left side is about 1cm but it’s hard so he says that one we need to remove. The other two on each side they say could be the tumors branching out or just some nodules. They do know no for sure as they are small.
Do you think I should leave them in and just monitor them. I was told by a friend the longer you leave them the % gets higher for them becoming malignant. Also I would think the bigger they get the hader it is to remove. I really dont know what is the best thing to do.
Everyone says the risk of Facial damage is scary, but the risk of not removing them is greater. I go on April 1st to discuss surgery.
Do you think it’s normal to have 2 tumors and 2 more possibilities? Alo both my ears have started to get sore. It hurts deep down inside my ears.
any suggestions or advise would be great.
I admire you both and everyone on this blog for your courage.
Kim, I would go to another Doctor, one that isn’t connected to the ones you have seen. There is a reason they work together, they see things the same way so I don’t believe you have truly have had a second opinion - that is where I would start and then go from there. I don’t think that the % changes for it to turn malignant as it gets bigger but 5% for something like that is huge….. even if they are checking ever 6 months if it turns malignant that is a 6 month jump it has had on you. I am not sure how they are doing the biopsy but here is something to think about, re-read everyone’s posts everyone that has had them removed they have sent the lump away to have it tested again, why is that if the biopsy tells them if it is malignant or not…. it is because that test isn’t 100%, my doctor told me they can’t get enough cells to test it 100% so please think of that. I am not trying to scare you but personally I would rather have some nerve damage on the face then be dead. Go see another doctor for your own peace of mind.
Kim,
I would want the most experienced advice on this. Given that there is so much going on in this area-your facial nerve, your ear, etc., I can see why doctors would approach taking out four different tumors with caution. Seek out a specialist who has done many of these operations and who has a good success rate. To seek a second opinion is not to disrespect your current doctors, but just to weigh your options. Seems like different doctors have a different take on the same situation. I can tell from this blog that different doctors do the operation differently- use different stitches, different cuts. In Andre’s case, the doctor preserved his ear sensation. My lower ear is still numb 3 1/2 months after surgery, and the doctor said it may always be numb. One person said they did something (a cheek flap?) to prevent a dent where the gland was. Someone mentioned the Osborne clinics. They specialize in this surgery and are probably finding out more info on the subject than anyone. So I think this surgery is still evolving and may become even safer in the future.
Good luck with your health and your decisions. Keep in touch.
Kim,
I really feel for you at the moment having such a huge decision to make, but I do agree with Andre and Barbara about seeking a second opinion and especially how it is not disrespecting your previous Drs.
You mentioned that you were told that they can be slow growing tumors and can take up to 20 - 30 yrs to grow to 4cm, please dont believe this as gospel as my tumor was approx 1cm for about 5 years, then in 2 years, grew so fast to over 4 cms. My surgeon was mortified that I had it for so long and that it had been misdiagnosed as a palpable gland and said that the smaller they are the easier they are to remove. With all the information that he gave me aswell as the diagrams he drew to show me the surgery I was really fearful about having it removed because of the size of it, and I was angry that I missed the opportunity to have it all over with when it was small. He said the smaller the tumor the smaller the risk, however I do understand that yours are deeper….
Please consider getting another opinion, the risk of them growing is quite large, just because you get another opinion doesnt mean you have to run with it and have the surgery, just broadens yours options.
And as Barbara mentioned there are so many different ways the surgery can be done, so many different approached from different surgeons.
Take Care, and good luck
Tash x
Hi Everyone, thank you so much for all your advise. Andre and Tash I hope you are both feeling better. I’ve taken all your advise and composed a list of all my concerns and questions to talk over with the doctor on April 1st. I’m going to ask why we are only removing one for now. I want to know exactly where the tumors are and exactly what the smaller 2 are on both sides. Dr. Crotin is the doctor. He is an Ontology doctor. He also does cosmetic surgery. Anyways the great news is, my husband and I booked a weeks holiday to Mexico (Mayan Rivera) for April 2nd. The day after the appointment so we can just get away for a bit and relax. Just forget about everything for awhile. Well at least a week. I can’t thank you enough for all your suggestions and advise it has truly really helped. This site is so important as I really feel it’s a great support group.
Barbara thank you for your advise and I do hope your feeling comes back and that it is just temporary. I think my biggest fear is having any sort of facial damage. But it’s better then having cancer. I will let you all know what my doctor says.
Kim
Thanks for your story, I am on schedule for surgery April 28th 2010. I have already had the protruding knot removed, the biopsy came back subcutaneous mixed tumor (pleomorphic adenoma) so now they will go in a do a partial hopefully just partial and remove the rest of the tumor. as you said the tumor is not cancerous now but there is that 20% chance of recurrance and it may be. so the best thing is to get rid of it now. I am a little nervous about this. but I have done alot of research, and I feel I am doing the right thing. Not taking any chances. Thanks for your story, I feel a little better now.
I wrote a bit ago, before I had a surgery date. I had my partial parotidectomy on the 22nd of March. I had no drain installed, and all of my stitches were removed on the 26th of March. Everything is healing well, and I still have swelling and such, and a lower lip that isn’t responding, but my doctor seems to think I will get the use of it back eventually. I have a lot of numbness, and the pain is like warmth and ache, and the occasional tang when I eat.
I have been taking videos of myself and putting them up on youtube to help people that were like me and looked for every bit of info… I hope it helps someone like this blog helped me.
Along with my partial parotidectomy they also took some lymph nodes that were abnormal, maybe this is what’s going on with the other Kim? I am not a Doctor so I don’t know anything for sure, but maybe?
Oh, and my Doctor thought that this needed to be taken out ASAP, even with the risks, as it can grow and become entangled in the facial nerves and cause more damage if you don’t act on it, so I would talk to another doctor. Good luck to you!
Laura when you say you had the knot removed was that a tumor? if so why did they not take it all out at that time. Or was it because they could only take out a bit because it was tangled with your nerves. I was told that if they only take out a part of it then the risk is high that it will occur. I am with you on the nervouse part - but be strong and think positive.
Kim C glad to hear you are doing well. May I ask how come you never had a drain, I was under the impression that everyone had a drain. However on the bright side I guess that’s a good thing. I think your right about the abnormal lymph node. I know for sure I have 2 benign tumors on each side, however the doctor said that on each side of the tumors there are 2 more lumps. And that they could just be nodules. That is one of the questions I have for the doctor. I am going to also ask him wht he chooses not to remove both - maybe they can’t do both at the same time because there on opposite sides. Anyways a couple more days and I will have more answers. Will keep in touch. Kim - hope you feel back to normal real soon. Speedy recovery.
Kim
I don’t know why I didn’t have a drain, but it was never discussed beforehand, so I wasn’t expecting one. It just means that my body has to reabsorb the junk as opposed to it being drained, and I am healthy, so my body shouldn’t have any problems with that. It does mean that I had bruising all the way down to my clavicle and into the upper part of my chest from all of the junk, I don’t know if that’s normal or not.
It has been a week since my surgery. The numbness is unnerving and annoying - I am always afraid that I will rip it open in the shower and not know about it until I see the blood. I am also getting really tired of not being able to sleep on that side as it was my favorite side to sleep on. As the numbness on my face subsides it is tender to the touch, it hurts to talk, to yawn, to sneeze, and if I eat then it still hurts to chew, just not enough to take any pain meds, I have an aversion to narcotics, and they make me nauseous.
Kim - I don’t think they can do both sides at the same time either, they would be limiting the movement of your face far more than would be comfortable or easy to deal with, so maybe they do one side and then wait for it to heal, and then do the other side? I don’t know as I only had my left side affected by this. I know that this is unnerving information to process and you can start to fixate on it, I hope that you get more answers quickly and that everything goes smoothly for you.
Kim C. I have about the same amount of bruising and had a drain so I don’t think that has anything to do with it, some people just bruise more I guess, I always have, you should see my arm from the IV! I am on 2 weeks today and I still can’t lie flat so I feel for you.
I still have blood and Saliva leaking from part of the incision, at first it was just saliva but there is blood there for sure. I have another appointment in a few days for the doctor to take a look at it and see what my options are. So as soon as I eat something I have to deal with the pain of eating and then the blood and saliva dripping down my neck, or on a gauze if I put one on, it has become very annoying.
Kim,
Goodluck tomorrow with your surgery discussion, will be thinking of you…
I am now in my 4th week after the surgery and doing well. I am still numb in my ear and across my cheek but I dont feel like I have been to the dentist and that the left side of my face is swollen and sticking out a mile. It is no longer uncomfortable and is fine to sleep on.. Occasionally I get nerve pain, either shooting through my ear or across my cheek but its not excruciating and Im assuming that it is the nerves healing.
Have a safe Easter…
Tash
Andre-I didn’t have anything dripping out of my incision area, it was all closed up tight, and I never had any problems with excess saliva so I got really lucky there. I do have seepage that is a clear yellowy-brown, but it is minimal, it is only on the incision and isn’t drippy or running down my neck. I still have pain when I eat and afterward it makes my jaw ache and the ‘tang’ happen. It sucks to know that I won’t be sleeping on my side anytime soon.
Is anyone else afraid that they will be washing the incision in the shower and accidentally break it open and not know it because of the numbness? I freak out about this whenever I bathe.
Also, has anyone noticed a ‘dent’ in their face, like a bigger hollow under the cheekbone, and maybe an altered jawline on the side of the surgery? I noticed this the other day, after the swelling had really subsided. It isn’t noticeable to friends and family says it isn’t blatant, but it’s my face, so I noticed.
Hey Kim C, I was worried about that in the shower the first time but wanting to be clean over rode that fear, I was also told I could shower right away so that helped the worry as well. I am brave enough now to touch the incision all the time, of course with Saliva dipping it is hard not to touch to try and stop it. I have also noticed the “dent” although in-dent is probably more correct. No one has said anything to me either but I really notice it, there is no symmetry to my face now, I find it very noticeable and I don’t think that is something that will go away with time either.
Hi guys, long time no talk to!
kim,
Hello, my name is Michelle. You are the first one to mention the headaches and stroke like stuff going on. I too had these probs and this surgery, feb 20th 2010, was my second surgery. My first was 9 years ago, very small, in and out no big deal. The second, I waited way to long, really bad headaches, twitching my face felt like it was drooping and right before my surgery it did start to droop. when they finally took it out it was 4inhces long and 2 wide, which is because I waited, no matter what if you wait they will grow!!!! Trust me get a 3rd 4th opinion until you get the right opinion with in 5 months this sucker doubled in size and I lost ability to move my upper lip and I have a huge caved in face….Get them out now!!!! the smaller the better and less risk I promise you…..I don’t mean to scare you and as long as they are small and benign then there is nothing to be affraid of. They had to bend, cut move all kinds of nerves to get this huge sucker out and all because I waited….Good news I think I am getting plastic surgery, Oh and I am down to 1 norco a day I tried to stop after a couple of weeks of 1 to 2 vicodins a day and My legs were all messed up again so went back to doc and now 1 norco at night for 4 days and then 1/2 then none…..wish me luck.
You know until you guys said something I haven’t read anything from anyone else but you guys recently about the dent….The dent is devistating me….Thats why I want surgery. My ENT says not to too dangerous with the nerve. My PMD referred me to a specialist.
My partial parotidectomy is scheduled for 6 July 2010. I can live with possible facial paralysis, but I never had surgery before and am scared to death of being put to sleep. Any comments?
I had the surgery three days ago. I had a drain which was removed 24hours after surgery. My main complaint is I feel like I have a balloon inside my ear and its putting pressure on the inside of my ear. Anyone else experienced this?
Hi Mike,
I had that feeling for about a day and a half after my surgery, when I spoke to my surgeon about it, he said that it was because he was pulling and pushing around in that area doing the surgery. He explained that my ear was actually clamped and squashed in the surgery, pulling it away from my cheek area, so this is what was causing that feeling, my inner ear also popped alot when I swallowed, but it stopped within two days of the surgery. If it continues, maybe chat to your surgeon just for peace of mind - hope this helps - goodluck
Anz,
I guess its normal to have a fear of the unknown, but honestly there is nothing to be afraid of, let them know your fears and they will talk you thru it all. Everyone is different with how the respond to a general anaesthetic, but the anaesthetist is by your side thru out the entire surgery to monitor you, so you are safe.. Goodluck to you too
Thanks tash for the info. It has gotten a little better today. I have my followup appointmant on Wednesday so hopefully it will be gone by then.
Hi All, Just to let you know that I went for a check up today and was told that there is a 5% chance the lump could come back so I have to keep a check on it. I was then discharged which means I do not have to go back again as the consultant was very happy with my recovery, he did say that say my eye would return to normal in time as it still does not blink as much as the other one and its now been 4 months since my op. Hope everyone is healing okay and good luck to all who are waiting for their op. Love Nat
Hi All ,
I had the surgery ( total parotidectomy) done last week and there is no significant numbness to the face.I am happy in that aspect. At the same time I have a fear that it may reccur eventhough the chances are less .I would like to hear from you regarding the reccurence.
Thanks
Jhoney
Hi Tash, thank you so much for your comment. I think I watch too much Grey’s Anatomy. I’m forcing myself to think of other things after all, July is still a long way away. These comments are all really helpfull and give me peace of mind whenever I feel panicky at the thought of having the surgery.
Hi All,
I was interested in the discussion of ear symptoms after this surgery (balloon-in-the ear, Mike and Tash,) I’ve had so many weird ear feelings, I’ve wondered what in the world happened to my ear. It’s gradually getting better, but it’s been a long healing - 4 ½ months now. Interesting Tash, what your doctor said about your ear during surgery. Maybe mine was squashed too. When I first came home from the hospital, my ear felt like a hypersensitive metal rod had been inserted in my head and was sticking out about 4 inches. The slightest touch on my outer ear would feel like the rod was pushing into my inner ear. I called it, “Tuning Fork Ear.” My ear was sensitive to loud music. Occasionally my ear would start vibrating, all by itself, and I would hear a sound like hummingbird wings. The weirdest of the symptoms and stabbing ear pains mostly stopped after about 5 weeks, but I still have remnants. I still hear hummingbird wings once in a while and my outer ear, when touched, still feels connected to the inner ear. My ear started to feel normal-sized, instead of extra large, (“Elephant Ear,” Thanks, Nat!) at about 8 weeks. Another sensation I called “Ear Turning Inside Out,” where it felt like something was folding and unfolding inside my ear. Another one is Underwater/Cotton Ball Ear, where I wake up with funny sound because moisture has collected in the surgery ear, after sleeping on it. (Remedied with Q-tip.) It’s much better and more normal now, but I still feel extra pressure in the surgery ear.
Don’t get me wrong; I’m very grateful to not have cancer or facial nerve damage. As others have said, these are the main things; these other symptoms are minor and should get better in time.
A while back, my daughter said to stop calling it “my dummy ear.” (I called it that because of numbness.) She suggested “my beautiful awesome ear” instead. For a long time it felt like a foreign object tacked onto my head with a staple gun, but at this point, my lovely ear seems to have returned to my head, though still a bit numb. I still have a pucker in front of my ear where internal stitches are tacking my skin to my head. But, the tacked-down spot is losing connection to other internal stitching going around my ear and down my neck. It used to pull on my ear whenever I turned my head. Now it’s almost the same as the other side. Swelling in my cheek is almost gone. My family says they don’t even notice the scar or the pucker.
The doctor said I could rub on the tacked-down place to loosen it, which I do every day. I give myself gentle finger massages around my ears and neck and cheeks, both sides at the same time, trying to make them “match up” with each other. They’re pretty well matched at this point. I still put Vitamin E on the scar. I use the steam room at the gym to stretch my neck. I do exercises and yoga that twist and cross and use both sides. I still have twinges when I rub on the scar. I still have a tender place below my ear that I need to be careful of. Lately when I rub on the stitching around my ear, it causes a cool sensation in my inner ear. Again I wonder what’s going on. I see my doctor again in a couple of months, but he doesn’t usually explain much.
I had a funny thought: I’ve been taking special care of this numb ear and surgery scar for so long- will I miss them when they’re gone? …Not really! But it would be nice to take more “special care” of myself in general.
Good to hear from you Nat. You make me smile. Glad you’re doing okay. Good luck with your eye.
Tash, I was never able to watch the RPA show where someone was having this surgery. I just get to see an Australian commercial, and then it says the video isn’t available. I watched another video of this surgery recently on one of my curious days. It was set to music! How nice.
Hey Michelle, hope you’re well and off those pills.
Good luck to those looking ahead to surgery. Don’t worry. Worry stresses body and mind and doesn’t help. Relax, find out what you need to know, and take good care of yourself. It sucks to have to have surgery, but my hospital experience was really positive. Great people, good care, good comfort level. Hope yours is the same.
I had a large pleomorphic adenoma removed in 2000, they had to saw my jaw in half and I had a tracheostomy to get through the surgery as the tumour was so large. I was 22 when they found it, I’m now 32 and hoping it won’t come back.
Hey all, well back to work now, even though I don’t think I am ready but what can you do…. I thought I was summarize what happened over the last month and a half because of the “leaking” issue that no one else seems to have experienced… March 16th was the day of my surgery, I guess it went well although there was some issues with recovery and waking me up but I wasn’t able to get a clear answer on the issue, I was in the recovery room for 5 hours though. I was sent home the next day, after they removed my tube (aka the vampire is what I was calling it). 6 days later I noticed “pinky” liquid leaking down my neck, at first it was a very small amount, it got to be more and more every day, also darker red, I had the stitches removed March 25th 9 days after surgery and the doctor told me leaking was saliva and what he felt was “blood staining” from the surgery, basically blood that was in my incision from the surgery and the saliva was washing it out…. that was a Thursday, by Sunday I was leaking and bleeding so much I was soaking though a large gauze in about a hour after I would eat, it would take 3-4 hours to stop after I would eat. I called the Doctor on Monday concerned and he couldn’t see me until the following Thursday, so as the week when on the bleeding and saliva slowed down but never stops, took about 45 minutes to stop after I would eat come the Thursday appointment. Doctor took a look at it and because it was slowing down he wanted to give it another week. He did notice at that point in time that he missed 2 stitches!! (don’t they count these things!!??) it was because it was at the spot that was leaking so that “hid” the stitches I guess, he took them out and my leaking became worse at that point in time, however the bleeding stopped in a few days, so it was clear saliva at that point in time. I would eat and for an hour after I would have this saliva leaking down my neck, and with the lack of feeling on the skin I wouldn’t know until it was almost at my collar bone before I could feel it. So this keeps going until Thursday April 8th which is the next appointment, at this point in time he tells me that I need to get a sea sickness patch (actually called it a Scopolamine patch), yes you are reading that right. The main side effect of the sea sickness patch is to dry out the mouth (aka the saliva gland) so off I go to get this patch, which is pricey for the record. it is a little circle that goes just behind the ear. So I put this on and sure enough I get a dry mouth, mostly because my much needed saliva is still leaking down my neck… then I noticed I was having trouble reading, so I check into it and the other side effect of the patch is blurry vision so I wasn’t able to see close up anymore (the distance you would hold a book to read). So you put this patch on for 3 days and then you need to put a new patch on, before I can no longer read I notice that you are only suppose to use this patch for 6 days in total, so come day 5 and I am still leaking from my neck, my mouth is dry, I can’t read, and there is of course the pain and “dummy” ear all happening at the same time, I was grumpy - and I have my company calling me at least once a week asking me when I am coming back to work! I call the doctors office to ask them what to do, they tell me to use the patch for 9 days in total and then stop and let them know what happens…. so I keep going with my personal misery, on day 8 of the patch (April 16th) I leaked when I had breakfast, but when I had lunch no leak! I was so happy. I take the patch off the next day on day 9, still no leaking, I was very happy…. then on Monday it felt like my face was going to explode, the amount of pressure in my face was unbelievable, I think the saliva glad wasn’t draining into my mouth and the leak was actually stopping the pressure from building up and now that the leak stopped the saliva had no where to go…. this pain kept going for 3 days, I thought about using a drill on my face at one point in time. The morning of 4 day there was a sharp pain in my incision area and I was bleeding and leaking saliva for about 20 minutes and then it stopped, since then the pressure pain in gone so I am just back to the normal recovery pain, itch you can’t scratch, dummy ear stuff. So over all I have no nerve damage so I have to say I am lucky in the end and chalk this up as character building.
PS shaving sucks.
Hi Everyone
I do apologize for not getting back to everyone in so long as I was on vacation and had many things come up. I hope everyone is doing well. I did go see the doctor on the 1st of April. He explained that they can’t take out the tumors on both sides at the same time. He said that they are going to take out the 2 on the left side first. One is about 1cm and the other on that same side is just a little under a cm. I’m scheduled for May 26th. Got the date today. Was very excited as it was scheduled for July 5th however they bumped it up. My doctor is Dr. Crotin who is out of Centenary Hospital in Toronto, Canada. He said that it would be a day surgery (I would get out the same day) and that I should be up and about in a week. I was a little taken back by that as I had read so many of everyone’s blogs and it seemed that people were in the hospital over night and didn’t feel better for weeks. I know everyone is different, I was just a lttle confused. He makes it sound like it’s gonna be easy. He did say that best case scenario the surgery would take about 2 1/2 hours - however he would not know until he gets in there to see where the Tumors are positioned within the nerves. That was a little scary. I am nervous about the surgery but I am looking forward to having the first 2 removed. My biggest fear is waking up and having permanent facial damage. I’m honestly not sure what to expect. How much pain will I have - what to expect the first couple of days. It’s pretty nerve racking. I want to thank everyone for your support and hope everyone is feeling better and for those of you scheduled for surgery - all the best
Hi everyone.
Just wanted to let you all know, I had surgery for removel of a pleomorphic adenoma yesterday and am home today. This site has been great at keeping me informed and I feltI went into it knowing enough to feel confident I would be ok. I to was frightened I would have facial paralysis but I dont. I do have a numb ear and part of my face around the incision is numb but my surgeon says that may go away with time (the ear numbness wil prob remain but I can deal with that). I’m only 26 and didnt expect to have to go through this so young but its over with now and just have to recover and await results as to whether or not benign.
It was no where near as bad as I thought i was going to be and although I am in pain I feel relatively ok.
I wish you all well and if anyone wants to chat to me about it feel free
Sarah xx
Hi all,
I would like to know if the site of your tumour (its location) determines where the facial paralysis will be.I suppose the size of the tumour does have something to do with it.
Sarah B what was the size of yours?
Hi, mine was behind my ear lobe and was relatively small and superficial apparantly. Think surgeon said it was about 2cm x 3cm
My surgery is next week. Getting a little nervous however becuase of this blog I feel like I know what’s coming. What I would like to know is how much pain are you in when you wake up. I am having a day surgery, so I’ll be home that night. Is there alot of pain? When do you actually feel okay. I was told that I would have to sleep sitting up for the first couple of days? is this correct. I’m assuming that if the pain is alot then you would probably just sleep most of the time. Question I have. Is anyone a smoker? did anyone smoke after a couple of days? Just curious as to waht to expect within the first few hours after surgery and the next couple of days. If someone could shed some light that would be great.
Dear Kim,
I felt fine when I woke up after surgery, wide awake and ready for dinner. The hospital drugs worked really well to control pain. The hospital staff encouraged me to “get ahead of the pain,” and take meds as soon as I felt pain coming on, rather than wait til it’s making you feel awful. So I did and I was fine. I found that a lot of chewing would make my head and my ear and my jaw hurt, so I like soup better than salad, oatmeal better than Cheerios for a while. I took pain meds every day for 2 weeks- 9 days hydrocodone, 5 days ibuprofen. I felt good but if I tried to do too much, I would have pain even through the pain meds. That was the hint to me that it was time to lie down and rest. Then I felt fine. I stopped taking naps after 2 1/2 weeks and was up to normal energy at 3 weeks.
My doctor made light of it as well. He said I could do whatever I wanted after a week. Not true for me. I felt more delicate than that.
I smoked pot through an icewater-cooled bong on the fourth day. Felt okay.
It’s almost 6 months for me now. My salivary gland action and facial nerve action seem to be okay. My ear is still a little funny. It has extra pressure and is sometimes wet inside when I wake up. The surgery site still feels funny- though it has gotten steadily better since surgery. My lower ear and a piece of my cheek in front of my ear is still a bit numb, and there is still a tender tweaky place near the scar.
To sum up, I never felt that bad, but I’m still healing up from this surgery.
I’m a big wimp about my looks, and I have to say it’s not bad in that aspect. The surgery side is a little different than the other side but you can’t see it from the front, and you can’t look at both sides of a person’s head at the same time, so it’s hardly noticeable even by me and my family.
Good luck with your surgery. I’ll be thinking of you. Take good care,
Barbara
i had my operation on the 19 of september 2008 to date i am still having server complications,
first complication was facial nerve damage, my mouth drooped so bad on the left side i looked like a character from a horror movie! little did i know that doctor had severed my facial nerve! 2nd was the silvery gland and the constant leakage for about 8 month after surgery. the pain and discomfort especially the discomfort i still get till now.
the electric shock feeling i get in the right side of the face. the numbness on the right side of the face and right ear lobe. a pulling feeling pretty much constantly. my doctor ran away after the surgery and it took me 3 months to track him down and find out he had sivard my facial nerve. he was rude enough to say to me i am a public patient and get over it. also that iam not young (only being 38 at the time)
that is was not important to have my full looks anymore. i was outraged to say the least!
one day i was sitting on my pc and i went into a music room and was listening to music then all of a sudden a felt a jolt kinda like a small electric shock! so i went an put good quality ear phones on an would listen to the music any where between 4 to 12 hours a day after a month a started to see some improvement to my facial appearance and i would feel my nerve mending every time i would play or listen to music so i knew some how this was fixing my face to i stayed with it for over a year i did regain 90% of my mouth back in that time and my confidence and low self esteem brought on by this doctors savagery surgery was was much better. as i could look at my face now in the mirror without crying.
i believe the sound wave therapy fixed my damaged face and caused my nerves to grow at a much faster rate and almost full recovery! the doctor also told me that my mouth would not recover due to the served nerve or would at least take up to 5 years to recover at a 50 rate! wow did i prove him wrong i found that playing music with very good quality head phones caused a vibration to my nerves that produced an stimulated the growth to my facial nerves at a more expedient rate genres i would listen to where ,tech house, progressive house, d and b minimal but i found the best results came from tech house music when i felt my facial nerves having a party when ever i listened to played this kind of music! i did not suffer any hearing loss. but till now the right side of my face is still num and so it my ear lobe.
the music only corrected my mouths appearance from a cosmetically point of view the music worked! i have taken action against the doctor to the medical board for gross Medical “Negligence !
all i can advise you is if you having this operation make sure you ask all the questions and read all the information and make sure the surgeon has had at least done 5 or more of these operations before you and that no one else will be introduced into the operation to like a intern or training surgeon as they can make huge mistakes which cause you to lose your face or even worse your life!
Barbara thank you so much for letting me know a little of what to expect. I was expecting to feel alot of pain after the surgery. My doctor told me I would be off work for about 2 weeks. Good advise on the food - I also would prefer soup. I’m surprised you were feeling so good after the surgery and ready for supper. That’s encouraging.
Rose - I’m so sorry for all you have been through. That must have been so incredibly difficult. I’m glad to hear that your doing much better. My doctor has done many surgeries with a great success rate. I do expect the numbness and some pain. Thank you for letting everyone know about listening to music becuase if anyone else is going through the same thing this may help.
My surgery is on the 26th - wish me luck
Hello everyone- I had my surgery. As far as I know the doctor said it was a sucess. I was in recovery for about 6 hours. The doctors and nurses were having a had time waking me up. I was also vomitimg and had a really bad migrain. my family wanted me to stay the night but like most hospitals they wanted you out. Not sure how big the tumor was yet i went back to the doctor the day after the surgery to have the drain removed and that was extremely painful. It’s been almost a week now and I am still not eating anything solid actually I am really not eating. I’ve ;ost 6lbs allready. I just has mt first bowel movemnt today after a week, that was a little painful. The doctor sent me home with Tylenol 2. only 30 and that didnt last long I now take a Tylenol 3 when I feel pain. I fel alot of pain when I try and eat, as it feels that my ear lobe and a part of my neck is on fire. Not sure why that is. But it happens everytime. I’m scheduled to be off for 2 weeks but I.m not sure if thats going to be long enough. When does the swelling go down and your able to eat. I washed my hair today - I knew not to get the stitches wet so it was tricky, but I couldnt stand it any longer. I go back to see the doctor on the 4th for a check up. Not sure whrn the stitches are coming out. Can somebody tell me how painful that is. Anyways I want to thank everyone for writing your stories and experience because it really did help. Worse thing is I have to do this again because I have 2 more on my left side.
thanks Kim
Hi Everyone
Was hoping to hear from someone regarding the above messages. It’s been 3 weeks since the surgery. Still not back at work as I still have some swelling and mninimal pain. No need for meds anymore. Still not sleeping on the side of the surgery. Very frustrating. I wanted to ask a question. For about a week now my face where the incision is has been leaking. It really leaks when I eat - however it leaks all the time. It’s like a dripping bathroom faucet. It’s constant. The doctor said it was normal however how long does this last. My throat is still sore only on the side of the surgery. I’m eating alot better now but still not eating normal as it still hurts at times. But at least I can eat more then just soup. I go back to the doctor tomorrow for another check up. My biopsy results should be back now. I still have to turn my whole body when I turn my neck. I do have a indent in my cheek. The swelling has gone down however there is still quite a bit. The constant leaking drives me crazy. Anyone had this.
Hey Kim,
What kind of leaking are you experiencing? Is it sweat, saliva, or something else? I still get sweat on my cheek (not the incision) when I eat but that’s about it; it’s not constant. I think it would matter if it was leaking from the incision or not. I think it might be possible that it’s just still draining s long as its’ not blood that is leaking out. Let us know what the doctor tell you.
B
Hi Sarah B (post 217),
I find you post very reassuring, as I have to have a superficial parotidectomy in a few weeks, just a month before my wedding. I am so nervous it is unbelievable, and worried sick that I will have facial paralysis temporarily, although the Consultant has assured me that it is unlikely in my case and I will be fine within 2 weeks due to it’s location.
I am not really bothered by scarring, as I have long hair, but just very worried about time scale
Any help would be great
Dear Kim I’m gonna be 60 in this Oct. I had the pleomorphic adenoma remove in1994, and it come back again, I did try traditional Chinese medicine and acupuncher
but nothing help so I’m gonna get second surgery again my Dr. said you can wait until it grow to 4 cm+ so don’t worry may be by that time they have high tech. to do it
I had the same surgery on May 25, 2010… it has now been 4 weeks, still have a little pain when chewing some foods, numbness, scar is healing good. My doctor found tumor by accident when checking me for TMJ, just so glad he found it before cancer could have set in…praying it doesn’t come back. I wished I had found your insight 4 weeks ago.
i too had my surgery done on 22/06/2010.
really it was a strange experience. i have a tube attached to my ear still n it will be removed after 9 days as said by doc. thank u 4 creating dis blog n sharing ur experience… it whould be wonderful if u chat wit me abt ur experience n all.. my id is kiransai14@yahoo.com.. thank u once again…..
Hi all, this is a great site and I wish I had found it prior to my prostatectomy. Just like you Brandon, I had mine in the same locations just behind my right ear. I noticed it about a year ago and a FNP said it was probably a swollen gland. The FNP said it was probably not a tumor because it was movable lol, good thing it turned out to be benign.
Anyway, I unfortunately had complication from the surgery. My doctor was honest and stated the Surgical Nurse had accidentally hit my facial nerve when using the separators (sorry not sure what those little fork things are called) . This caused severer facial nerve paralysis, but I have a 98% recovery so my doctor said, but could take up to a year. I would be curious to hear from someone who had nerve paralysis and how long it took to recover from. I would be happy if I could just close my right eye at will. To all who are expecting the procedure don’t worry apparently (unless the tumor goes into the nerve) there is very little to no risk that you will have any paralysis. Once the surgeon got in there he noticed the tumor was larger than the marble that was felt behind the ear and had to make a larger incision. Apparently, it was shaped like a dumbbell and had a gulf ball size end deeper in gland. I am glad I had it removed and given the 20% if cancer forming I recommend doing the operation. Beside the rare complication I had, the surgery really is not as bad as I thought before I had it. Good luck all.
Thanks again for the blog Brandon and to all who posted with the helpful comments.
Hi Everyone,
It is now 4 months since my surgery and I thought I would give an update - I must admit I feel extremely blessed with how it has all gone and with my recovery. At this stage I have no signs of Freys syndrome which is a common side effect of the surgery, where close to the incision area you can sweat at times. I was completely numb along my cheek and my ear was completely numb aswell. I have just regained feeling in my cheek, however my ear is still numb and sometimes I get shooting pain through it, Im hoping that is the nerves repairing. The most bizarre thing that I am experiencing tho is that when I scratch my scar, I get a tingling sensation in my ear - very odd. My scar still has some pinkish tones to it, but my surgeon was an absolute master and I am grateful for the internal dissolving stitches that I had as I feel that it made all the difference in the healing. I wish to thank everyone who I have spoken to in the past for all their support as it was extremely helpful and reassuring and I also wish everyone recovering a speedy recovery. Listen to your bodies, everyone has their own unique experience and your body will let you know what you need to recover.
Tash
Good to hear Tash! Did any of you have a stinging pain in your jaw when you first eat? I have this everytime I eat for about the first 10-20 seconds then it goes away.
Hi all I’m gonna have my second surgery sometimes in Auguster I have left para-pharyngeal space polymorphic adenoma it’ gonna have a big side effect ion then before I don’t if any of you have a reassurance tumor I’m really scare I am try to find different way to do it in stead of transitional operation IDO NEED SOME ADVICE IF ANY OF YOU HAVE THE SOME SITUACTION LIKE ME PLEASE TELL ME
Hi C (post 226)
Bit of reassurance for you:-
I went to a black eyed peas concert in the standing area so lots of jumping and dancing, 3 weeks after my op and I was fine. Just had to make sure noone bumped me!!
Sarah x
Dear all
I had my surgery on 6 July and everything went well. for the past few months I dreamt of writing exactly this on the blog. yes, it was a pleomorphic adenoma and I was quite worried for a while while waiting for the results of the biopsy. I stayed overnight in hospital and the painkillers did the trick. The drain was removed, not an entirely comfortable experience, after 24 hours in the dr’s surgery. My neck is still quite stiff which makes driving impossible. I have also noticed that excessive saliva is produced while I am in a relaxed state or sleeping. I was very shocked to notice that my hair was shaved above my ear and down the neck, but of course it is not the worse thing that could have happened. One other thing is that I was stitched up quite badly: the surgeon cut across my ear lobe and now I have a piece of extra skin around and behind my earlobe, I hope this will flatten out and that it might just be swelling. i thank the Lord that I have no facial paralysis although the docter told me that he had to peel part of the tumour away from the nerve that leads to the eye.
thanks to all for your words of advice - I will keep in touch.
I’m going to have surgery on 13 Sept. for the removal of a pleomorphic Adenoma tumor. I’m a dental hygienist and found it one day at work when I was bored. Knew right away something was wrong. Went to the doc, said to watch it for alwhile. Finally went to an ENT doc. Did a fine needle biospy, and there you are. Not looking forward to the surgery. Pretty freaked in fact. The tumor is not that big yet, but I’m totally freat, because I know what can happen. Should I cut my hair for this or what? How much pain with be involved after surgery Freaking out here
the girl who would rather take an ass whipping that go thru this. Any advice given who be good.
Any good Dr. in Fairbanks Alaska let me know A

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